Ben Crump, MSNBC Contributor Suggests Re-Defining Crime To Accommodate ‘Black Culture’

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  1. FatBack

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    Lol. Seems like it be mo wayciss to actually understand the finer points of math .
     
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    Apparently per capita has become the new Jim Crow.
     
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    Crump like other race baiters depends on his lies to work up the black community against whites and the law in general so they come running to him and he has made himself quite wealthy over his deceitful practices. Garner did not die because he was selling untaxed cigarettes without a business license interfering with the lawful business of the legal businesses where he was engaged in his illegal activity. Floyd's death was not a result of his attempting to buy cigarettes or even his passing a counterfeit bill when he did so. Both died because of their own lifestyles and resulting health conditions and then their physically resisting arrest for the crimes in which they were engaged. Nothing to do with their race.
     
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    You still don't get it? You delight in and post subjects that are divisive, derisive and dismissive of African Americans. You haunt sites that help you do that. There was a lot said in the documentary about the concerns of African American males but you and your right-wing media only focus on Crump's hyperbolic nonsense "We can get rid of all the crime in America overnight, just like that " which is mean spirited and racially divisive, when the rest of the documentary is ignored.
     
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    They died because of ignorance and mistrust. The officers did not believe "I can't breath" because they'd probably been lied to many times by poor Blacks in trouble. They were also ignorant of physiology. Putting someone on their stomach causes the internal organs to go down and up. Downward is stopped by the pelvic girdle and upward is stopped by the diaphragm which restricts its movement. That causes a slow buildup of CO2. The person starts feeling like they are not getting enough oxygen and they aren't. They may complain, but if it goes on long enough....suffocation.
     
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    They believed and called the EMT's when he first complained and that was long before he fought his wsy to the ground get your facts straight. All Floyd had to do was sit in the patrol car until the EMT got there. He choose otherwise.
     
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    I didn't see the documentary, I only saw Crump's comments, so that's what this thread is about and that's I've commented on. So on that basis, we seem to be in agreement about Crump and his comments.

    How about that?
     
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    Yes, get your facts straight. An ambulance wasn't called until after Chauvin and others had him face down on the ground for a bloody mouth. It was a code 2, non-life threatening.
    Are you implying he chose to die?
    You had the link.
    If I ignored everything about you and refused to learn would calling you Lil four eyes be fair or mean spirited?
     
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    Maybe but I welcome it if that's what you are reduced to.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    And as I am saying you are.
     
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    False and it wasn't life threatening when they made the call. The ambulance was given wrong directions and why it took so long for them to get there. He had blood in his mouth because he was banging his head around in the police car as he was fighting his way OUT of it and onto the ground.

    Don't be absurd. He CHOOSE to commit a crime that day. He CHOOSE to be high on drugs while he did it. He CHOOSE to resist the police on their arrival. He CHOOSE to ingest more drugs while he was trying to hold them off at his car door. He CHOOSE to physically struggle with the police. He CHOOSE to fight with them while in the police car and force his way out of it on to the ground. He CHOOSE to make the police go to maximum restraint tactics while they awaited the arriving at any moment EMT's. He CHOOSE the lifestyle that led to his advanced pulmonary condition leaving his heart in a very weakened and damage condition. Floyd did the things that led to his death and HE is the one responsible for it.
     
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    You: "They believed and called the EMT's when he first complained and that was long before he fought his way to the ground get your facts straight."
    Vs the facts: While Floyd lay on his chest with his cheek to the ground, Chauvin knelt on his neck. Floyd stopped moving around 8:20, though he was still conscious. At approximately 8:22, the officers called for an ambulance on a non-emergency basis, escalating the call to emergency status a minute later. Chauvin continued to kneel on Floyd's neck.
    Thank you Mr. Obvious, Floyd made a life of bad choices, but the officers duty was not to kill him. My original post on cause of death stands.
     
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    Beautiful! You don't have an argument, only insults.

    This is the best possible outcome as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    And apparently the argument is beyond your grasp. There is an imbalance and it is heavily skewed negative toward the Black culture.
     
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    Well your response to me was simply to insult me. So that seems the totality of your argument. You don't seem to have anything else.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is beyond your grasp, because I can't state it more simply.
     
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    No it was simple enough. I got your message.

     
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    Does it make you feel better and perhaps intellectually Superior to hide behind a computer while insulting people on the internet?
     
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    Do you know the difference between insult and criticism?
     
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    No of course I don't.... Do you know what sarcasm is?

    Your post speak for themselves.

    I think it is you who does not understand the difference between criticism and insults.
     
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    Excuse me it was 36 seconds after he fought his way out of the car, saying he couldn't breath, and still fighting with them with his mouth bloodied from this banging his head around in the car, still not life threatening.

    Here is the entire body cam footage

    https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

    I dare you to watch it all but specific to this

    9:00 start to move him to the police car
    10:05 begins to fight with police trying to get him into the car saying "I'm claustrophobic don't put me in there"
    ****He continues to fight, says he just had COVID and he's claustrophobic
    14:12 while fighting with the police says "I can't breath" no knee on his neck
    ****he continues to fight with them they continue to try and get him in the car calmed down until he fights his way to the ground kicking the officers are refusing to cease and calm down, says he can't breath and no knee on his neck
    17:12 call is made

    Chauvin was not kneeling on his neck and there was no sign of injury from kneeling on his neck nor did Floyd die from asphyxiation. He died from a pulmonary arrest.
     
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    So the difference escapes you.

    So your original statement was wrong. COD is consistent with my original post.
     

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