Benghazi: A Desperate GOP Attack

Me trolling? Thats laughable, especially coming from you little man!

 

And again I ask, what do you claim Obama would have been able to do differently?

You keep saying the same thing but have not answer.

 

We have already documented some of the Hillary mistakes that led up to the attack as well as Obama's indifference after the attack started.

 

No, you're here to make accusations in hindsight that can be down with every single attack we've had in the last 30 years. Including the marine barracks in Lebanon and the WTC in NY.

 

Former defense sec Gates tells us Obama was impotent and could not have saved the Americans even if he want to.

Or even if he had tried, which he didn't.

But Gates also admits that he is just speculating.

And I really don't see what Obama could have done from the presidential bedroom while he was sound asleep.

Maybe in his dreams he dispatched something to help them because Obama did nothing to help while he was awake.

 

Was it Obama or Clinton who refused the repeated requests for MORE SECURITY, at the EXACT, SPECIFIC LOCATION of the attack...or someone else?

He just DOESN'T SEEM TO KNOW,nor does she for some reason.

The World Trade Center never requested more security, did they?


Nor did Bush LIE ABOUT WHO DID IT, and WHY, either did he?

Obama/Cinton began a CONSPIRACY of LIES about Benghazi..from DAY ONE, because they KNEW people would learn about the State Dept.'s REFUSAL to beef up security there, despite REPEATED REQUESTS.
Dance some more...it's funny.

 

Great. I don't know of a damned thing more Obama could have done either. So now we have established the silliness of your argument.

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Just like Bush IGNORED the memo that came out 30 DAYS BEFORE the 9/11 attacks WARNING that planes were going to be HIJACKED and buildings in NEW YORK BOMBED.

Amazing how clear things are with hindsight, eh?

Or do you want to blame Bush for the 3000 that died that day?

 

What decisions did Hillary make about the Bengazi security, and security of diplomatic posts worldwide, for that matter?

 

She made the decision to keep the consulate open without giving it adequate security.

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The point about obama is that we will never know what could have been done because Obama didn't even try.

 

Oh, sweet, sweet irony.

 

And what exactly is the precedent for Presidents who don't reveal every single detail of something that so deeply involve national security?

We realize that right-wingers love to go off half-cocked with only part of the information, but some people prefer a more measured approach.

 

Well, apparently the Secretary of State, like the president, is completely CLUELESS about her own Department, as he is about his ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION.

They just cannot seem to NAME who refused the REPEATED REQUESTS for SECURITY, but her SIGNATURE on a State Dept. cable doing so, is certainly no "proof" she was involved...to the DELUSIONAL.

 

So Condaleeza Rice was a security expert and therefore responsible for all the security decisions that resulted in the attacks on the foreign diplomatic posts in the second half of the Bush admininstration?

I don't recall any conservatives blaming her for that.

Typical hypocritical double standard.

They not only named them they fired them.

How many were fired during the Bush administration for the 13 attacks during his presidency?

 

Proof please. I wasn't aware the Sec of State normally makes the detailed decisions about staffing security for embassies and consulates around the globe, but I could be wrong.

Since you can't come up with even one thing else he could have done, it's pretty stupid to argue about it, isn't it?

 

You've "documented" no such thing.

You've repeatedly demonstrated how you confuse your unsupported, baseless say-so as proof.

 

Of course youre wrong.

Duties of the Secretary of State

January 20, 2009

Under the Constitution, the President of the United States determines U.S. foreign policy. The Secretary of State, appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate, is the President’s chief foreign affairs adviser. The Secretary carries out the President’s foreign policies through the State Department and the Foreign Service of the United States.

Created in 1789 by the Congress as the successor to the Department of Foreign Affairs, the Department of State is the senior executive Department of the U.S. Government. The Secretary of State’s duties relating to foreign affairs have not changed significantly since then, but they have become far more complex as international commitments multiplied. These duties -- the activities and responsibilities of the State Department -- include the following:

Serves as the President's principal adviser on U.S. foreign policy;
Conducts negotiations relating to U.S. foreign affairs;
Grants and issues passports to American citizens and exequaturs to foreign consuls in the United States;
Advises the President on the appointment of U.S. ambassadors, ministers, consuls, and other diplomatic representatives;
Advises the President regarding the acceptance, recall, and dismissal of the representatives of foreign governments;
Personally participates in or directs U.S. representatives to international conferences, organizations, and agencies;
Negotiates, interprets, and terminates treaties and agreements;
Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries;
Supervises the administration of U.S. immigration laws abroad;
Provides information to American citizens regarding the political, economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian conditions in foreign countries;
Informs the Congress and American citizens on the conduct of U.S. foreign relations;
Promotes beneficial economic intercourse between the United States and other countries;
Administers the Department of State;
Supervises the Foreign Service of the United States.

In addition, the Secretary of State retains domestic responsibilities that Congress entrusted to the State Department in 1789. These include the custody of the Great Seal of the United States, the preparation of certain presidential proclamations, the publication of treaties and international acts as well as the official record of the foreign relations of the United States, and the custody of certain original treaties and international agreements. The Secretary also serves as the channel of communication between the Federal Government and the States on the extradition of fugitives to or from foreign countries.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/115194.htm

 

She has overall responsibility just as the president has overall responsibility for the Govt. And as Secretary of State, Clinton took responsibility for the attack.

But that doesn't mean she would be the one making detailed decisions about security staffing at the various embassies and consulates world wide. If she did I'd fault her for that. Somebody with expertise in security issues should be making those decisions.

 

No, it was Hillary's decision to keep the consulate open without adequate security.

That is what was testified to in the house hearings.

When a consulate or embassy does not meet minimum security requirements only the Sec of State herself can decide to keep it open.

Obama did nothing.

He didn't even bother to stay awake or in the Situation Room while our people were under attack and being killed.

 

No one in the LYINGASS Obaama ADm. has any EFFIN' IDEA WTF anyone in the OBAMA ADM. is DOING...

 

I'm sorry, I keep forgetting that you think your own baseless yammering is proof.

Let me rephrase it for you.

Prove, please, by links to credible sources, showing that Clinton actually made the decision to keep the consulate open without giving it adequate security.

Prove he did nothing.

Wait.

Prove, please, by links to credible sources, that Obama did nothing.

I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on all accounts.

 

I don't think so.

The first reports that ran contrary to the US version in North America came out of the BBC by way of the CBC in Canada. As I recall it was several days after the initial attack and well after the rose Garden presser.

Because of the staunch denial of Obama and Muslim supporters in here and other threads those contrary reports were attacked fiercely of which very little was incorrect I might add.

 

Don't you know anything without having it spoon fed to you?

I am repeating the testimony in the house hearing when the subject came up.

Only the Sec of State herself can approve keeping open a consulate that does not meet security standards.

It is not a decision she can delegate and then claim no knowledge of later on.

That was the expert testimony of the witnesses.

As for Obama everyone involved with the massacre says that Obama did nothing.

He had a brief meeting with Panetta and then disappeared from the story.

No one spoke to him as the night wore on.

 

I'm sorry. That's a fail. You're baseless say-so is not a link to a credible source, or a credible source in any event.

 

What needs to be asked is this:

If, as the Obama defenders are NOW saying, that Republican funding cuts prevented there being adequate protection, why then was Mrs. Clinton pursuing an aggressive expansion of the Benghazi station at a time when tensions were already high over the 911 anniversary? If true, it is gross negligence.

The truth is likely that Obama had pinned a lot of political capital on his policy in Libya, insisting his way had defeated the Taliban and he had "won" the hearts and minds of the Libyan people. He had been campaigning for a year straight, hadn't attended more than a handful of briefing sessions and was believing his own bull(*)(*)(*)(*). He saw the political capital of a photo op of opening a consulate in Benghazi, as did the other political Hilary and they went for it. It was all about getting re-elected.

Four people died, but what's that matter when you're killing civilians the rate Obama is?

 

It's not a fail.

You are beyond logic or reason.

I could spend hours finding a reference and you would spin it another way in 2 minutes.

You and the other obama worshipers are not interested in the truth if it makes your president look bad.

So why waste my time pretending that you are "in play" when you're not.

I'm telling you how it is whether you choose to accept it or not.

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That's one of the questions libs on this board are running away from.