I'm going to write a little primer on Alpha/Beta male vocabulary Hint, if you use terms or lines like this in your vocabulary regularly, you're going to give off a strong 'beta male' vibe, so you should consider purging it, especially when in the company of a woman. Here's this for starters: --- Translations of 'beta male' to 'English' "Skanks/sluts/whores/etc" = "Women (likely out of my league) who I desperately want to have sex with, but didn't get to. Therefore I despise them - because I'm not the guy they are having sex with" "Superficial women" = "Woman who can actually afford to have standards when it comes to choosing a mate, and therefore would never give me the time of day" "Women don't date me because I'm too nice" = "Women don't date me because I'm a loser" "Women only go for guys who are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags/rich/felons/murderers/etc" = "Women don't date me because I'm a loser" "Women should just like me for who I am" = "I'm too lazy and unmotivated to improve myself" "I'm saving myself for marriage/a real relationship" = "I'm in a committed relationship with my hand" --- I may expand later, I came up with these on a whim.
The key language of beta makes is shoulda woulda coulda. If a male says those words frequently he is a beta male.
*Thinly disguised "I think I'm an Alpha male" thread* Raising the question... would a real alpha male find the need to claim to people that that is what he is?
Good point. The thread seems to point to males accepting their own faults instead of blaming others (objectified women to be specific). Most Alphas, or dominants, that I have met have a very hard time accepting their own faults and follow one of two courses. 1. Continue to blame forces outside their control for their failure, and doggedly work to overcome them. or 2. Continue to blame forces outside their control for their failure, and give up, funneling there energies into more productive endeavors. Introspection is a decidedly Beta pursuit.
You have two errors in your post 1. To change your behavior requires introspection which both of your examples use and yet you claim is a beta male characteristic 2. Alpha males never accept they are ever a problem. They always blame others or a situation for their lot in life.
Well... to be specific I should have specified outward admission of failure. Have ever been in a physical fight? Its hard to beat someone while worrying about your own weaknesses. Instead, determination wells up inside you with every punch you take and you fight harder. And yes, you do blame and hold against your opponent every bruise they give you. Change can happen to a person without conscious will. We often adapt without introspection from a strong inner will to win.
I think you are confusing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags for alpha males. A (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag is no more an alpha male as a coyote is a wolf. It may try to look like a wolf but it is no wolf.
Easiest way to spot a beta-male is to watch for people that directly/indirectly proclaim themselves to be Alpha-males.
Sorry, Touched a nerve eh? Really I am just putzing around, Alpa and Beta and all that stuff seem like peripheral concepts to me and a lot like labels. I may seem like a dick, but at least I am posting on your thread.
No one is going to come in here and admit they're beta males, and this is just a dick measuring contest anyway; ultimately, it doesn't matter. All I know is that as long as I make more money than most people, I'm happy. Oh, and about the "I'm too lazy and unmotivated to improve myself" line - maybe I just really don't care what anyone thinks of me? I honestly don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) - I don't change who I am to please anybody. Does it (*)(*)(*)(*) people off? Hell yes it does. Unfortunately for them, I do not care.
The whole "Alpha vs Beta" dick waving contest is boring at this point. There certainly are guys who use those excuses in the OP as to why they're not successful, but like Spiritus said, I don't care what a lot of people think about me. So it's not insecurity.
I'm not saying this only to prove you wrong but I am (by conventional definition, not the trash in the OP). Just the way I am, what's the point in worrying about it? In the modern world it has it's upsides anyway.
Yeah I don't like (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags confuse cockey with confident. Confidence is knowing in your you are competent. Cockey is incopentents pretending that they are competent.
Interesting... you do realize though that this means that Rush Limbaugh must be a beta male then, along with various other misogynists on the right wing.
Yes, it is a mixture of personality traits, behavior and habits that lead to success. Success with women requires confidence, the ability to listen, and the ability to at least appear empathetic. Monetary success and success with women are not synonymous. And each individual will have a different definition of success. Is success with women having many willing sexual partners for a short duration of time? Is finding one partner who you grow with, establish a family with, and finally become old with success? Depending on what is most important to you will give you a much better guide on how to succeed.
That's kind of a myth but there's some truth to it. A submissive guy who kisses a woman's ass is not attractive to a woman at all. If a guy has balls to stand up for himself, then that's going to be a lot more attractive to women. Some really beta males out there think that waiting on a woman's beck and call do cater to her is going to get them laid, but it ain't happen - it just makes them useful idiots, but not attractive at all. But no, on the opposite spectrum, no, hitting a woman's not going to get you laid either.
I agree that true and true misogynists are probably beta males, yes, whoever they may be. Though you'd have to include Bill Maher too right? On the flips side there are some complete beta males on the left who scream and crap themselves at anything they remotely perceive as misogyny - which I'd say is equally beta and on par with the guy who hates all women just because he has a tough time getting laid.