Biden admin weighs complete block on offshore oil drilling as gas prices keep rising

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    True, but 1) Revenge plays an emotional factor. Since Impeachment has now been reduced to a no-confidence vote, why shouldn't Republicans take that vote against Biden? It's not like they actually have confidence. 2) Because impeachment has been sullied, there's no reason to make the argument anymore. Like, why should we hold impeachment to those super high standards now?
     
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    Yet another fibb I assume you know. Can't we not play games, before the shut down of our country due to Wuhan. Maybe up since the last time he was in the whitehouse in 2015. When you have to BS to make a point, we know your dead ass wrong.
    https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us...el of U.S.,11,600.00 thousand barrels per day.
     
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    You posted "I never had to keep one eye open for an incoming nuke with Trump like I must with Biden" which if not a reference to Russia then what is it a reference to?

    You also blamed Biden for not feeling like your son is safe in New York, to which I pointed out that Biden does not run New York.

    Maybe you need to go back and reread what you posted?

    Per the gas price issue, the XL pipeline was never even operational. He ended something that hadn't even begun and had no bearing on gas prices. The rest of what you posted is true, but hardly the driver of $5 gas by itself.
     
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    If parties are just going to play a tit-for-tat game, neither can ever claim to be better than the other. The Republicans claimed it was wrong to impeach Trump, so if they turn around and try to take revenge by doing the same to Biden, they are being as wrong as they claimed the Democrats were. They will have no ground on which to claim they are any different.

    I've said consistently on here that the Democrats biggest mistake in dealing with Trump was to eschew being the adult in the room and instead to try and out-child him. You'll never out-child Trump because the man hasn't had a minute of maturity in his entire life, and you'll destroy your own credibility in the process which is exactly what the idiot Democrats did. If the Republicans decide to follow their lead, they too will fall victim to the exact same suicide of character.
     
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    This might very well be petty, and it does destroy the ability to be the "adult in the room" but the argument from many conservatives, even to the leadup to electing Trump in 2016 is "What has that ever gotten us?" What Republicans(particularly really conservative ones) hold onto to this day is the treatment of Bork when he was nominated to be a SCOTUS.

    Mitt Romney's comments in 2012 were damning, but they weren't quite as indictive as Democrats had made it out to be. To conservatives, every time they nominated a Romney, etc, the niceties just weren't enough to win elections. To this day, the goto strategy for Democrats is that Republicans will 'put them back in chains', and it seems like 'election denier' is the 21st century slogan they're going to go with.

    Simply put, and this is definitely damaging to our entire civic process but Republicans gain absolutely nothing from civil political discourse. So if being the adult in the room gains nothing, and if American Politics has been reduced to a brawl, before getting verbally jabbed why not beat them to the 'punch' first?

    This is of course where politics goes to die, and it loses its grandeur from there.
     
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    Biden brought us a renewal of Russian aggression, demonstrated in Ukraine, with his cowardly abandonment of Afghanistan. Biden's continued cowardice and ineptitude continued to embolden Puten so that he now feels safe threatening nukes.

    Biden, as head of the Democratic Party, has given tacit approval for Adjutants General all over the country to let violent felons free on the street without bail.

    The XL pipeline WOULD be in operation by now, enabling our cost at the pump to be less. Perhaps you should go back... and learn to read with more comprehension.
     
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    You have no idea whether that had anything to do with Putin's decision. He could have been planning on doing that anyway, pegging Biden as weak. If you want to blame someone for renewed Russian aggression, you really don't have to look any further than Putin.

    That's also a bit of a stretch to blame Biden for that. You could start there with the folks who have actually gotten rid of bail.

    Perhaps a little. Prices might be marginally better. Refining capacity is still a bottleneck.
     
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    Biden administration weighs complete block on offshore oil drilling as gas prices keep rising

    :police: ~ Let us not be too hasty in blaming the illustrious Biden-Harris administration for our country's energy woes .
    :shock:' :plug: ⛽️$

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    Just a note. We're building a new multibillion dollar refinery here in my part of Texas. And we produce our own oil. Energy independence anyone?
     
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    The fact that he's considering it makes him unfit for office and should be impeached and removed.
     
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    Brandon’s administration is an excellent case study for business management and leadership courses.
     
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    ~ I was thinking behavioral psychology class ... 1584414801.3623-smiley.gif
     
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    You stirred up some fun memories.. At West Point I took a class in "Managerial Psychology". I walked away with two tremendous lessons. Our "P" (professor) had tasked us with producing a semester long paper requirement. I remember going to New York City to interview CEO's as a Cadet and lots more. It was a major effort. We all had about 200 pages to submit. Two weeks before it was due, the "P" told us our papers could not exceed a dozen pages. We all panicked.
    Then, to make things worse, he said that he'd have lots of papers to grade. If we were smart, we'd find a way to grab his attention and get him to correct our paper first. The guys at the end would have his papers graded when he was tired and bored. It would behoove us to find a way to get our paper to him first.
    My roommate approached his wife. She came on to the "P" when he came home one night, meeting him at the door in a slinky outfit and a martini, inviting him to get to bed. As he ran to the bedroom and pulled down the sheets, there was my roommate's paper. It definitely got his attention.
    I took my own paper and placed a yellow "TOP SECRET" cover sheet on it. I slipped it halfway under his office door. It was discovered that night by a guard who called the MP's and all hell broke loose. It got my "P"'s attention.
    My roommate and I both got "A" on our papers.
    In years to follow I often remembered these lessons. As a Battery Commander in Germany I watched a fellow Commander constantly whine and complain to our Battalion Commander. He was often ignored. I rarely brought any complaints to my Battalion Commander so that when I did, he gave me his undivided attention.
    I also remembered the old precept of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). My personal rule was never to exceed 12 PowrPoint slides in a decision briefing to the brass and keep in mind the primary rules: Tell 'em what you are going to tel 'em, Tell 'em, Then tell 'em what you told 'em. Decision makers have no time for extraneous BS.
     
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    ~ This is a good rule many ignore — or never learned. My lesson in journalism class - 7th grade 1967 - "Say whats important with as few words possible. Nothing fancy. "

    ✔️ That 'P' sounds like a good guy. :aww:
     
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    where is all the gas for truck drivers? Diesel
     
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    What is the epa and all of these other environmental programs controlled, and created by the Democrats, and their politicians for, if they're not going to actually use them?

    we can produce so many things here a lot cheaper, and cleaner, and yet Dems are ok with not doing so? it brings a whole new meaning to global whining.
     
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    Countries such as in the middle East and Russia produce oil at significantly lower prices than the US. So if you understand how the energy market works there will be no such thing as "energy independence" unless you want to go down the nationalisation route. But if you do that then the price of oil to the consumers in the US would be higher in the US than the rest of the world
     
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    But remember the liberal talking point.

    .. the president has little or nothing to do with the price of gas even though this administration has done all they can to put their Jack boot on the neck of gas production.
    ..

    I'm glad I'm not a liberal because I would hate to have to sit here and make such b******* excuses continually
     
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    And supposedly this has something to do with the idiot Biden making gas prices go up?
     
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    Who cares about the rest of the world we want gas for ourself.
     
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    Their prices do not effect us unless they are lower...lower gas prices is the goal.

    You understand that, right?

    We get most of our gas here and in Canada. We can set our own price as we are not opec+ members. If we dump excess oil on the open market history taught us that opecs response is to flood the market with oil in an attempt to put our refineries out of business.

    Christ I hate having to explain this constantly.

    Having said all of that, currently the price of a barrel of oil is not reflecting what is charged at the pumps. We are getting gouged. The Democrats are not doing anything about this. Enjoy your high gas prices
     
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    Lol. Of course the global price effects you! Do you think that the US oil companies have your interest at heart or care more about profits? What do you want the government to do about you getting gouged? The oil companies can easily increase their output right now
     
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    Do you struggle with the topic?
     
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    Unlike you I don't feel the need to talk about Trump in every unrelated thread.

    The topic is actually about the moron in the White House further stimying gas and oil production.

    I know you desperately want to change the topic and ignore that but that's too bad.
     
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    It would be a block on new leases. Federal leases make up less than 10% of oil production, and must of the leases go unused. Not to mention the fact that this has nothing to do with our current price problem.
     

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