Biden administration expected to announce diplomatic boycott of Beijing Olympics this week

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  1. Jeannette

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    The only message the US is sending, is that it's continuing to politicize and destroy the whole purpose of the Olympic Games. They are supposed to be a-political remember?

    Anyway, China didn't invite any American officials to the games, so there.:nana:


    I know the games were always used as a distraction for our client states to commit aggressive or illegal acts - such as Georgia attacking the Russian peacekeepers and civilians in S. Ossetra during the games in China, and the 'nationalists' overthrowing the legitimate president of Ukraine at Maidan during the Russian games at Socchi.

    So taking the past into account, and knowing how the neocons have been talking about how beneficial it would be if Ukraine went to war with Russia and defeated them, isn't it plausible that the games will be used once again as a distraction?

    That the propaganda networks have been going full speed about Russia preparing to attack Ukraine during that period, only substantiates Washington's true intent in my mind.
     
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    And another move I support. I’m almost in shock lately
     
  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our company mandates it (even if you work remotely), and my coworker applied for exception, which he received based on religious beliefs. Now he has been sick with Covid for few weeks already, and slowly recovering.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 options:

    1. Take the jab
    2. Get tested
    3. Get an exception (religious or medical)
     
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    Tell that to everyone being forced to take it or lose their job.

    ... until Biden says that his mandate now applies to private businesses with 50+ employees... or 20+ employees... or quite simply applies to ALL private businesses... or anyone wishing to work anywhere.

    It is for all of the private companies currently mandating it.

    Not lies. The lies are coming from you (see below).

    Nobody said that it was... What people are saying is that MANDATING vaccines (in order to retain employment) is a human rights abuse.
     
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    You can either:
    [1] Get shot in the head.
    [2] Jump off a cliff.

    YOUR CHOICE... ;) ;)

    Ummm, what about the choice to live rather than to die??

    Nope, you're not being forced to die... I've given you a choice, remember... ;) ;)
     
  9. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human right? You think you have the right to keep your job even if your employer doesn't want you?

    Where does such entitlement mentality stem from?

    This reeks of communism.
     
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  10. gfm7175

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    @Arxael

    1. This is an invasive medical procedure.
    2. This is an invasive medical procedure.
    3. This is not always an option (or is an option FOR NOW).

    Thus, the "choices" are essentially:
    1. Undergo an invasive medical procedure against your will.
    2. Undergo an invasive medical procedure against your will.
    3. Undergo an invasive medical procedure against your will (but not quite yet).

    That's NOT a choice. That's tyranny, an abuse of human rights, and downright Satanic.
     
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    Yes.

    An employer being forced by government to get rid of an employee is not an employer wanting to get rid of an employee.

    Yes, the Biden Regime reeks of communism.
     
  12. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, yea, you have a choice.

    It is categorized as "routine medical procedure", so let's not try to compare it to open heart surgery. Surgery is an example of invasive procedure. There are also "minimally invasive procedure", like taking skin biopsies.

    "Where invasive procedures also involve the administration of a medicinal product, these could be categorised as being part of an ‘invasive procedure’ when operator skill is required for its administration within the body, that is, when an internal action is performed to administer the product or the product is administered to a targeted anatomical area, for example, Zhu et al."

    No, you do, when you argue that keeping a job is a human right. IMO a corporation should not have to justify why they fire you, but if you refuse to follow corporate policies, that is more than a good enough reason.

    So far the government has done no such thing, and based on their words the choice will be there, and even then they are not mandating what the corporations should do if someone refuses all three options.
     
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  13. Pro_Line_FL

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    For the record, I do not support govt asking private companies to mandate (or give options) to employees.

    I hope they will vote it out.

    Senate expected to vote on nullifying Biden vaccine mandate
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...g-biden-vaccine-mandate/ar-AARCij9?li=BBnb7Kz
    Senate Republicans are moving forward with their plans to defund President Biden's COVID-19 vaccine and testing requirements for private businesses.
    Democratic Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Jon Tester of Montana indicated that they will support it, meaning that the measure will likely pass since this vote will only require a simple majority. Lawmakers, through the Congressional Review Act, have the power to overturn federal agency rules within a certain timeframe with a simple majority vote in both the House and the Senate.
     
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    Nope, no choices are being presented (when the "choices" are logically and philosophically extended, as I have done).

    WRONG.

    "Routine" means performed as part of a regular procedure (rather than for a specific reason). "Invasive" means involving the introduction of instruments into one's body or body cavities.

    A vaccination IS invasive. A COVID test involving shoving a q-tip deep into one's nasal cavities IS invasive. While both CAN be made into routine, they are not necessarily routine. They are both, however, necessarily invasive (by definition).

    Open heart surgery is also necessarily invasive (by definition).

    Surgery and skin biopsies are both necessarily invasive (by definition). So are vaccinations and covid tests involving q-tips being shoved deep into one's nasal cavity.


    There is no such requirement in order for a procedure to be invasive.

    I have never argued any such thing. RATHER, I have argued that the right to bodily autonomy is a basic human right. That right is not being recognized by the communist tyrannical installed Biden Regime.

    Agreed.

    Agreed, BUT the government forcing corporate policies upon corporations is not a corporation implementing corporate policies.

    The government is currently actively trying to do such a thing, and has also suggested in the past that companies ignore the court injunctions against those government efforts.

    No choice is there, as I have already explained.

    ... but they ARE fining those corporations into oblivion if they retain employees who refuse "all three options" (essentially the same option, as I have explained)... which is essentially mandating what the corporations do under such a scenario (which is to not retain the employee who refuses those options).

    1. Release the non-compliant employee.
    2. Retain the non-compliant employee and be fined into oblivion. If you don't wish to be fined into oblivion (and continue to exist as a company), then follow #1.

    1. Release the non-compliant employee.
    2. Release the non-compliant employee.

    That is not a choice either.
     
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    ... but do you support the Democrat politicians (by voting for them) who support such tyrannical basic-human-rights-denying measures?

    I do too. I hope that the justice system rules it unconstitutional as well. I hope that people start civilly disobeying the Satanic mandates.
     
  16. Pro_Line_FL

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    Can you name few corporations that have been fined into oblivion?

    When did I say I vote for them?

    Enough with the commie talk. You are not entitled to work and collect paycheck from a corporation.
     
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    After removing the name calling that was present in the original post, I'll just respond to you by saying to take a look at my prior post as I have already addressed the "exemption" "choice" and how it is not actually a choice.

    In the end, one is still being forced to undergo an invasive medical procedure, whether by a certain date or whether by a future date once Biden "loses his patience" and removes the exemption option (which isn't always presented BTW, and neither is the testing "option" which is still an invasive medical procedure BTW).
     
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    The mandate, which includes the fining into oblivion punishment, hasn't gone through yet, and might not go through (as it is hung up in the courts atm).

    When did I say that you said that you vote for them?? RATHER, I asked you IF you vote for them... I posed a question to you there.

    I'm admittedly beginning to get annoyed by your seemingly purposeful misrepresentations of what I say. Please read and comprehend what I have actually said before responding to it.

    Okay, NOW you are just being blatantly dishonest about my position, as I had JUST got done correcting you on it, yet you ignored my correction and have continued to plow forward with your own purposeful misrepresentation of it.

    Go back to my prior post, be honest about what I actually said, and try again. If you continue doing this, I will simply note your response as 'blatant dishonesty' and leave it at that. Do you wish to hold an honest discussion with me or not??
     
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    Meanwhile he's on his knees performing for them over trade. Got to have those products that are produced by slaves.
     
  20. Pro_Line_FL

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    So your comment "they ARE fining those corporations into oblivion " is now evolved into "no one is being fined".

    That didn't take long.

    I'm afraid it would be a waste of time given your ever changing arguments and entitlement mentality.
     
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    Here is my "more respectful" way of pointing out that you are not representing what I have previously said in a correct manner:

    Nothing evolved. You are blatantly misrepresenting my positions, this time by completely removing the context of the discussion.

    My claim was made specifically under the context of the mandates that the federal government are attempting to implement. Since this mandate hasn't been implemented yet (as courts are issuing injunctions), this hasn't literally come to pass yet, but the federal government is actively fighting to do this to corporations (and to any private business, really).

    None of my arguments have changed. Rather, you are blatantly misrepresenting them, as has been explained.
     
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  22. Pro_Line_FL

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    Offer a better word then

    First you said companies are being fined, and then you changed it to say that no one is being fined.

    Looks like flip-floppery to me, but I used "evolved" because its a nicer way to put it.
     
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    What I said and the way I said it is just fine.

    No flip-floppery is occurring... You're still making blatant attempts to remove all context from what I said. It is a dishonest way to hold a discussion.
     
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    ... so what about my argumentation regarding how the "choices" being offered aren't actually choices (when logically and philosophically extended)?? Any response to that??
     
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    Lets read your words together. You said they are fining corporations. You said what you said, so don't try to turn it on me.

    And later you admitted no one is being fined.

    You made a correction, so no big deal

    You can choose:

    1. Take the shot
    2. Take the test
    3. Get exemption
    4. Get new job

    How these are not choices to you is beyond me.
     
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