Biden not yet holding a formal news conference raises accountability questions

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    That is what you always say after people spoon-feed you information. Kind of makes it a waste of time.
     
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    That is some funny ass **** considering all we heard for 4 years was Trump compared to Obama
     
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    If we wish to be really technical, Obama is responsible for these vaccines. It was his administration that gave the research money for mRNA vaccines. Had that not been done we would still be waiting for a vaccine for COVID.
     
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    No support for your claim that what you are saying is "information?"
     
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    Can you support your claim that we'd still be waiting?
     
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    Basic common sense.

    In the majority of the research into the mRNA vaccines began in earnest in 2013 with funding from DARPA with more that followed in 2015. The vaccines we have today for COVID are based off of that research. Remove that research and you have nothing to base the vaccines on. There is no way we could have replicated 7 years worth of research in a few months.
     
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    So far, no support for an Obama connection. Just your word.
     
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    that is not what you asked for, you asked for some evidence we would still be waiting for a vaccine.
     
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    I spoon-fed you two links, but don't ask me again in the future, because you are too lazy to look up information yourself, and when others provide it for you, you pretend nothing was provided. Its a pretty annoying habit you got there, and not very honest.

    There you go again, asking for others to "prove" something to you, and when they go through the trouble of doing so, you admit you didn't need proof because you already knew.
     
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    I asked for support that we would still be waiting for a vaccine if not for Obama's actions. I didn't take your word that Obama's action were as you claimed.
     
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    Why is that? Have I been found to have provided false information to you in the past?
     
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    Oh, so you didn't edit your post four minutes later to include the two links, two minutes after I had already replied to your original post which had no links?
     
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    When I said "it is THIS that I was referring to" I meant "THIS" is the CLAIM which I was referring to. I did NOT already know about Obama's action regarding mRNA vaccines.
     
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    No, not at all, I just have no idea who the HELL you are! That's all! I would sincerely hope that you wouldn't take my word for anything either!
     
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    To be honest, I think it is stupid to give either president credit. I doubt very seriously that Obama personally knew about the money going to this research, just as WarpSpeed was thought of and funded long before Trump ever knew it existed.
     
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    I agree that Presidents don't know anything about such specialised fields and rely on experts, and therefore Trump personally gets zero credit for the vaccine and initial rollout and Biden personally gets zero credit for continued rollout and eventual ending of the pandemic, but I don't see how Warpspeed was funded "before Trump knew it existed." Such an operation was ALWAYS going to happen regardless of who was President, but didn't he have to sign something?
     
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    They get credit when it's due or they shouldn't get blame when things go south. Trump had policies for Covid research that are still in place and Biden has added nothing but his claim to their success.
     
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    Not on the mRNA vaccine, but perhaps on other things
     
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    I think you take it too far. It is one thing to not know about a single line in a budget, but the POTUS does lead the efforts to combat a pandemic. Their decisions have far reaching consequences. I do agree that Biden is not owed much credit as he has not really done anything other than make it a priority. I do place a good deal of blame on Trump for the first few months when time was critical and he dropped the ball

    It was part of the initial COVID bill. Now, I guess you can assume Trump read it all and knew what was in it, but that is not an assumption I would make
     
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    You seem to be saying the mRNA research contributed to the vaccine development for Covid so logically there should be some place the dots connect.
     
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    you miss understand the point the an mRNA vaccine. The mRNA vaccine is designed not for any specific virus, but to be quickly adapted to what is needed.
     
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    Claim: Trump held 1 press conference in his 1st year in office.

    You asked for proof.

    I provided it.
     

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