Biden White House Mask Alarmism Having a ‘Deleterious Effect,’ ‘Discouraging People from Getting the

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  1. Moonglow

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    A win-win situation.
     
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    Trump was way too late trying to keep the virus out of the nation it was here before he even though about the order.
     
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    There was never going to be a way to keep the virus out of the nation. The focus should have been on preparing for it.
     
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    What will be entertaining is when his court dates all start to hit and he finds himself personally bankrupt but still controls hundreds of millions of dollars in the PAC fund he alone operates that is set up in a fashion that he can use the money pretty much how he wants. His defenders/financiers now will watch him sailing in a rented super yacht on their donations, eating till he can't walk and laughing at them and they'll be able to do absolutely nothing about it as they realize that they've been played.

    I'm making popcorn.
     
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    Rand Paul is right, but his criticism is incomplete.

    Actually, it's been proved time and again that the masks protect nobody from anything, whether they've had the injection or not.

    With so many of the injected now showing up with positive tests, maybe those injected OUGHT to wear the mask?
     
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    Proof please...and not some guy saying so but actual data.

    Thanks!

    We will all be waiting, but not holding our breath.
     
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    You know what has deleterious effect on the vaccination of the US population?
    It's these right wing politicians who want to have it both ways. They are all on record saying that they are pro vaccine, and they all have been vaccinated, but they are virtue signaling the antivaxxers who they want to keep in their camp, so they will damn the vaccine with faint praise.
    Just go out and promote the eff out of the vaccine, heck, if you want to take credit for it, go right ahead. But what these people are doing to try to get some antivaxxers in their camp is criminal in my mind. Trump being the worst offender.
    And instead they want to go on this weird antimask crusade.
    Really not helpful.

    PS could all of the people continuously saying that no mask mandate states are doing better than mask states actually look at a chart before repeating this lie over and over and over again? Thank you
     
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    The most dominant strains in our area are the UK strain and the California supper spreader strain. Our numbers are fairly low though compared to what they were from July 4 to about mid February. Fingers crossed.
     
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    Yeah. real stand up behaviour there.
    The right lost any moral highground when they chose Trump to represent them over any of the actual moral candidates out there, and Trump has now infected these people who now display there depravity like a badge of honour.
    It's really tragic.
     
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    Thank God for that!
     
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    No what’s tragic is the utter hysteria surrounding a virus with a .02% death rate.
     
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    Yeah. No. My take away is that you have openly declared that you will lie to people, and suggest that others lie to people putting them at risk of a very deadly disease. Denying them the ability to assess that risk fot themselves.
    I suppose that you also advocate telling those that you are planning on bedding that you have had an HIV test and all is good? That you have unprotected sex claiming that you have had your tubes tied?
    At least some people have balls about there disagreement with various rules.
    Just flat out lying to people for your own convenience while putting them at risk is just despicable.
     
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    Not at a few of the large firms I have had a chance to visit. It's PPE.
     
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    Don’t make dumbass laws and requirements that aren’t logical and infringe upon my rights.

    And a .02% death rate is not a “very deadly disease”.

    I tell you what. You explain to me why it’s not acceptable to go into a restaurant without a mask but once you get to your table you can take your mask off and eat. But if you get up from your table to go to the bathroom or leave, you need your mask again... You explain that to me in any logical fashion that makes sense and I’ll follow all mask rules from here on out.
     
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    I have serious questions about the effectiveness of masks. Did any of you guys see people wearing masking while they were dancing in cold weather last New Year's Eve? The masks don't stop anything at all, their vapor was going through the masks like they weren't even wearing them.

    I just tried to find some of the videos and either I'm using the wrong search words or they were taken down.
     
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    Intelligence does have a strong liberal bias. Close-minded, dogmatic, paranoid people don’t make good scientists.
     
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    So your saying that he used a medical study done by MIT, or as smart smart people call it...SCIENCE, to make a decision ? HOW DARE HE USE SCIENCE when Dr Republican says we don't need masks. I mean, don't these “scientists” know that the rona is a political, not scientific. I mean damn, science has no place in America when we have a political side first !
     
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    Covid, now that there is a vaccine and that there is an end in sight will end up indeed by next year being no more deadly than the flu.
    THIS year, it killed more people in the US than Colorectal cancer, opioid overdoses, lung cancer, flu, AIDS, suicide, car crashes, diabetese, and strokes COMBINED.
    Not very deadly? What are you talking about?
    Trump claimed that if we had not acted that 2 million people would have died in the US in less than a year.
    Trump also claimed that it was our patriotic duty to wear masks.
     
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    One of the vaccines fully developed in foreign nations and funded by foreign nations you mean?
    All the US did was buy them.

    The revisionist history is cute.
     
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    I no longer care, everyone I care for is vaccinated so I think we should completely reopen with zero protections. Government should no longer pay for the care of anyone that gets COVID unless they have had the vaccine, care should be rationed at healthcare facilities to not impact the treatment of others.
     
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    CDC updated its guidelines, so the OP is moot.
     
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    Why does any healthy person under the age of 55 want the vaccine, when it still means masks, social distancing, no improvements?

    The Biden Administration is turning off millions of Americans to the vaccine as the reward for doing it is continued draconian measures. I heard China Joe actually say that he "may let Americans have 4th July". Yeah... **** off you scumbag. We are Americans and we will do the 4th with or without Washington D.C.'s approval you wannabe tyrants Leftists.
     
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    I would go with that. I have had CV-19 and have no need for the vaccine.
     
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    LOL how dare Fauci claim he's an expert, when his scientific opinion keeps changing, the way the CDC's does, whenever REAL scientists conduct REAL scientific studies.
     
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    I wanted it so I can travel to see family in the EU.
    Some of the long term side effects of covid — even for those that are asymptomatic — I would prefer avoid.

    Masks had zero to do with my decision, I actually prefer them in some situations (helps tremendously with allergies) — businesses should be allowed to implement their own health programs and their customers follow them or use another business. I see so many walking right past corporate signs and employees trying to hand out masks that I never want to hear another Republican say they support businesses setting their own rules.

    Biden didn’t say he might let you do anything, that is up to local governments — he was telling Americans that take the pandemic seriously “If we do this together, by July the 4th, there's a good chance you, your family, and friends will be able to get together in your backyard or park and celebrate Independence Day.” because of the numerous social distancing requirements imposed in many areas to try and slow down the spread.
     

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