Big Bang ushers in the heavens and the earth...?

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yes,... each "day" of the six days was millions of year long.
    Check out this Geological clock:

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    1. Formative/Cosmologic Era-Hadean Era/ = First Day

    2. Hadean Era-Archaean Era/ = Second Day

    3. Archaean Era-Proterozoic Era/ = Third Day

    4. Proterozoic Era-Paleozoic Era/ = Fourth Day

    5. Paleozoic Era-Mesozoic Era/ = Fifth Day

    6. Mesozoic Era-Cenozoic Era/ = Six Day

    7. Cenozoic Era-Common Era/ = Seventh Day
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I give up. Clearly maths is another subject you're not only unfamiliar with but are unwilling to acknowledged your unfamiliarity.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Intriguing!

    String Theory implies a minimum of seven higher dimensions of space - time. I wonder if the seven layers of the earth correspond with this somehow?!



    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    It is pretty amazingly correct on that first one page we call the Genesis 1 chapter.

    It stated what is now called the Big Bang Beginning.
    It told us that the Earth gradually took form from a void shape of rocks spinning like water around the Sun.
    It said that a Dark Cosmic Age existed when no visible light passed through the Universe.
    It said that Pangea was surrounded by "all the waters under heaven."
    It said six durations of time match our history of the earth as seen in the Geological Clock.
    It said that Life started with Plant Kingdom, first.
    It said that the Animal kingdom began after the Plant kingdom.

    These are very good and concise statements coming 3362 years ago, and listed on half the first page.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Scientists have noted that seven is a very useful number in things the study.
    It may be that Democritus was correct, in 460BC, when he said everything in Nature is Atomic working inside a void such that even our thoughts themselves are atomic in nature.

    The Atom has seven Quantum Numbers, each one is a prime orbital for the electrons which spin around the nucleus.
    That atomic fact may well be confirming what Democritus had said so long ago.

    I try to apply that idea of seven to many of the facts which the bible mentions, because as we know, "seven is the favorite number of god."
     
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    '9' That's the number. If we used base 9 instead of base 10, everything would have been figured out by now. The invention of '0' was an insidious plot to undermine everything.
     
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    No....it did not state any of these things. That YOU have decided to extrapolate your own interpretation onto the words actually written does not change the texts. I could interpret ancient texts to say the world was created in a huge factory....but it would not make it accurate.

    You are committing blasphemy by changing the word of your own God....hope you have asbestos underwear.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    hahaaaa...
    funny.

    But it is interesting, that the Base 8 numbers can be shown to match the base 2 number system in a way which makes it easier to read of the numbers in the Base 10 system.

    9?
    That is the last number in the string of the Base 10 number system, too.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    It is very dull, and even pathetic, to hear people stick to the same ancient medieval Bible interpretations that some other ancient guy came up with long ago, and say what you just said.

    You have been against the Bible because you thought it did not make scientific sense.
    Now, when you read that the Big Bang was essential the same as "In the beginning," you pretend the science is wrong, too.

    How can anyone respond to you???
    You are against the Bible because it does not make scientific sense.
    But as I show you that it does, you take a fetal position and cry "No, no."

    Why would the medieval interpreters do a really good job when the Bible itself says the message become clear only in the end days?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems you not only get to make your Bible say whatever you wish...but you also get to make up whatever you want about MY beliefs and opinions. I am "Against" the Bible(s) being considered accurate scientific texts...but am far from "Crying" about anything other than your attempted manipulations to make it seem so.
     
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    You forgot we already discussed this dumb chart. Remember the notation that #1 is the big bang and #2 is Cenozoic?

    Or the fact that the math of 375,000,000 years/hour makes a day 9Billion years long and a 6 day week 54 billion years long.
    IOW a truly nonsensical square peg of no real relevance.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    No.
    I don't know what you are talking about.
    Day seven is Cenozoic.

    Day one refers to the Big Bang moment up to the time when the Earth coalesced into a sphere, during the Hadean Era, about 4.5 Billion years ago.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    It makes sense.
    These were all "durations," not 24 hour days.
    Each "duration" varied in length, time was not the factor here, only the six layers of dirt which accounted for the history of the Earth during that duration.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You are talking silly.
    I don't keep saying that the Bible is scientifically correct.
    I just keep showing one correct thing at a time.

    Your position is that the Bible is wrong, scientifically speaking.
    You merely say that again and again.
    It matters little to you that I show evidence you are wrong.

    I am showing verse by verse, that scientifically the Bible corresponds to things science tells us are true.
     
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    you were the one that originally posted this:

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    take a close look.
     
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    Actually....you are showing verse by verse what you imagine the texts saying, and I am simply pointing out what you are doing. You are absolutely free to interpret the scriptures as you wish...but others are equally free to call out these imaginative creations for what they are. Intellectual dishonesty.
     
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    not a day a duration, not a day but 9 billion years, not an hour but 375,000,000 years.

    no matter how hard you try to fit that square peg in the round hole, you will continue to fail.

    It would be cruel to laugh at the contortions you are going thru with this little attempt at establishing the impossibilty of scientific accuracy in the bible.

    Math does not seem to be your forte.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Oh my goodness, the numbers run the wrong way...

    Sorry.
    The chart is numbered upside down, that is why I didn't see what you meant.


    #1 is The Big Bang Beginning, followed by these reading downward:

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    Thank u for getting back to me on this error.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    You need visit the Hebrew dictionary and see that "day" means a duration of time, which can whatever is appropriate to the context.
    It is strange that one "duration" is very long by our Solar Clock, but the Geological Clock durations are not using time that way.

    Time is measured by the changes in the rock sediments.
    There are six different major rock layers.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    No,...

    You are saying that the Big bang was different from saying, "in the beginning" of the Universe.

    You are saying that the Earth was not rocks spinning around the Sun, void of spherical shape.

    You are saying the Geological Clock does not exist.

    ...on and on...
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The word "day" in the Hebrew is "yowm."

    It can mean half a day, or a whole day, or a year, or an age, or whatever time fits the context:


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    Untrue....I agree those things are relatively accurate, I am saying the Bible(s) do not say these things.
     
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    My belief is that there are many completely true levels of meaning in each verse in Genesis.

    I believe that there are seven extremely important millenniums in which the "restoration of all things" is worked out.

    I believe that a former covering Cherub Lucifer - Iblis organized an attempted coup and seven literal days were all that was needed to fix up much of the damage that he and his angels had done.

    I also believe in seven extremely long ages between one Big Bang event that gets matters started……. and the time when we all decide to go back into the light - love - forgiveness - gratefulness….. that sets the stage for another Big Bang event that is at a higher level of spiritual energy!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html
    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ichard-eby-verifies-old-earth-gap-theory.html
    NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.
    I was impressed with the explanation given for the fall of Lucifer which would quite possibly fit with an earth that may well be 4.5 billion years old.

    Apparently a lot happened between the original creation of the earth and the time when the repairing of the earth was made necessary due to an attempted coup d'etat by Lucifer and the angels who decided to follow him!!
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Yeah,...
    And you follow that one sided belief by telling me a story about what you think the bible says.

    Then you show your ideas are scientifically wrong.
    That proves you and your ideas are wrong, and mine are right.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    There is an argument which supports the manifestation of the spiritual dimensions on a grand scale.
    Saying that America is the Big Satan has social meaning today, because, collectively, our culture is te sum af sexually promiscuous men making virtual whores of our women, who divorce easily, receive Welfare as they alone raise kids who are bastards, etc.

    The collective behaviors are mental expressions of whole groups of people for each of our archetypal thinking.
    The "spirits" are mental collections of similar ways of thinking, psychologically.
    That collective spirit permeates al the society as a social force itself.

    But I see this as rational, i.e.; psychological things, directly linked to adding together the thoughts of the individuals in the society itself:


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    1) Id = Intra-personal Intelligence = ...Lucifer
    2) Libido = Kinesthetic Intelligence = ...Satan
    3) Ego = Inter-personal Intelligence =..Mammon
    4) Anima = Spatial Intelligence = .......Devil
    5) Self = Semantical Intelligence =......Beelzebub
    6) Superego = Logical/Mathematical Intelligence = ...False Prophet
    7) Harmony = Musical Intelligence = ...False shepherd
     
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