Black Culture Pathology, What to do?

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  1. Johnny-C

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    Good points!

    But still... it's not as though a lot of White Americans don't have their own stuff to work on; they do.
     
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    It's because it is happening every day all around the country. The numbers don't even compare. The school shooters are generally mentally ill individuals. The motivations are entirely different.

    White people can't fix Black people's problems. And money can't fix Black people's problems.

    And Black people can't fix their own problems until they are willing to start recognizing that they have them.
     
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    If I post 100 sources of prominent black Americns recognizing and discussing the problems in the black community.....including youth violence, single parent homes, other crimes, and drug use, will
    you promise to never post in a discussion about race or black Americans ever again?
     
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    You are absolutely correct. If a white person murders another white person they could care less, but if someone black murders a white person then we have a crime problem in America.
     
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    Its a numbers issue. A person going nuts and killing many kids is a fluke that occurs, Thank God, only once in several decades.

    Violent beating people to death or disfigurement occurs on a multiple times a day basis.

    This driver of the focus has little to do with Race.

    You perceptive it to be driven by Race because it is for the time being largely Blacks who are the offenders.

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    The first step is recognizing the problem. Some are yet not willing to do that. Blacks account for almost 1/2 of the gun violence. Compared to their percentage of the public, that is a huge disparity. Black crime is mostly black on black. Because of the disparity, black on white crime is higher than white on black crime. Some black leaders do try and address this but the ones that make the news are the race hustlers that want to make their living off of racial indignation and want to blame the white man for what happens in the black community.

    MLK III:

    "However, sadly, the tears of Trayvon Martin's mother and father remind us that, far too frequently, the color of one's skin remains a license to profile, to arrest and to even murder with no regard for the content of one's character," he said, calling for "stand your ground" self-defense laws to be repealed in states where they have been enacted.

    This still does not address the real problem of violent crime in the black community. Look at what is happening in Chicago with the current social media mass mob crime which is not done by white kids.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/03/30/breaking-chicago-police-swarm-mag-mile-wilding-scene/

    This actually happens more than is reported.

    Even here, people are warned to stay away from downtown during Black Expo where shootings have happened almost every year except this one because of the pumped up police presence due to previous years. The shootings are almost always young black men or teenagers. A curfew had to be imposed because of it.

    This is not a problem white people can address, or are even allowed too address as you can see by some of the responses here. White people are ridiculed for even point it out. It is a problem the black community will have to address and when they get some leaders other than people like Jackson or Sharpton, they may eventually start addressing it.

    It is cultural and not racial but it is part of the black culture in our society for a variety of reasons but the most egregious example of ignoring the problem is to blame it on someone else.
     
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    Ah, so white people are just crazy.

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    If I were to make a few instances into a racial generalization... say, Black People are Drug Addicts... then I'd be called a Racist, and justly so.

    But I wouldn't make such a statement, because factually, it just is not true.

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    But plenty of people in this thread are acting like black people are vicious thugs, so are they racist?
     
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    Maybe you can start to do something by stopping to humiliation .
     
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    I do not believe that the genes that determine the amount of pigment in the molecule thin layer on the outside of person have any more determinant on behavior than do the pigment that determines eye color.

    But in the MINDS and CULTURE of many African Americans, there is a tenancy to excuse violent behavior, particularly toward White Americans, as a kind of twisted "Get Even" concept.

    Of coarse, the "White Americans" who did wrongs to the "Black Americans" are nearly all 100 years or more dead.

    But because of the excused bad behavior, Black Americans today, DO commit violent acts allot more than other Americans.

    So, No, that generalization is not Racist. It is Racial, but not Racist. The Generalization is sadly warranted.

    It is a Black American Cultural Problem! Own it, and Fix it!

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    Cackling Rosie answers Lone Laugher. Heh.

    If you could post "100 sources of prominent black Americans recognizing and discussing the problems in the black community" who are also setting a good example and not just demanding more money that would be a good start. I don't know if you can find that many.

    Better yet, if you could post 100 sources of areas where their followers weren't calling them Uncle Toms, but actually actively working to change their social habits I could join in the problem-solving process rather than standing on the outside and pointing a finger.

    But be silent while young people are being killed on the streets just because others are talking a good game? No.
     
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    This thread is hilarious.
     
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    Yeah, because it's always funny when cultures are damaged and people die.

    Why not comment on why and educate people?
     
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    It's hilarious because it is catnip for bigots.
     
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    So has he been fired yet?
     
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    Something about this whole thing smells like sting operation.
     
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    Seems all the blame is on white people one way or another, so theres really only one answer. Divide the country in two and put all the right voting whites in it - problem solved. I say the right leaning ones because clearly blacks and other minorities feel the democrats have the solution for them. Nobody should have an excuse then, the leftist solutions will fix it all.

    Dividing countries does seem unpalatable, but its best to be proactive than have it forced like the India/ Pakistan civil war partition. Its really not that uncommon in the history of mankind and keep the peace.

    Its really the ideal solution imo, the democrats and minorities know they have the answers with more social justice, so im sure they'd be 100% it.
     
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    Perhaps we could limit violence in the black community if the black community had more guns.
     
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    I'm tired of pseudo-semi-experts (especially disconnected White ones), sitting back on some forum pretending to have answers for Black people.

    Even a cursory view of the problems of White Americans suggests that such "geniuses" ought to be looking at problems within the CULTURAL groups they personally identify with.

    Otherwise, we can look at all of this in a far more constructive manner. Black people are not THE American problem.

    Gee!! How about some realism and sanity at this point??!!! Please.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot... GUNS are the solution to violence. How could I have overlooked such an obvious answer. ;)
     
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    No. But 'part' of the answer is for people to see STUPID suggestions like the one you just shared... and tamp them down, on the spot.
     
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    Woah so your saying the leftist policies wont give the diverse utopia you hoped for.......even with out all the 'evil problem making whites' gone? Well quite a dilemma here
     
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    We don't need to 'divide' the nation. Let's improve what we've got.
     
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    Evidence?


    lol, yes, because things have been super peachy for black people in the last 100 years. The KKK has been gone for over a hundred years? They didn't commit genocide of thousands of black people in 1921? Whites weren't lynching black people as late as the latter half of the last centurey? White people that didn't allow black people to ride in the front of the bus, drink at "white" water fountains or eat at "white" restaurants or go to "white" schools have been dead for over a hundred years? Police that perform racial profiling have been dead for over a hundred years? White republicans that try to keep black people from voting by ridiculous restrictions have been dead for over a hundred years?

    Evidence?

    It's a generalization about black people. When you make a generalization about a race, it's called racism.


    I'm white. I thought this was a "black" problem, so why would I own it?

    Do you own the White American Culture Problem that has existed and still exists to some extent? We could talk about all sorts of things that white people do "in general."
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    A lot of me is "White", genetically and especially culturally. But considering ALL things, I think that it is surely time for more White Americans to OWN their problems, setting an example for all of this TALK emanating from the mouths of so many harbingers of "Black" problems or violence.

    Honestly, it's sickening, distorted and ultimately disheartening... to hear so many anti-Black and LOUD White Americans rant-on and pontificate about Blacks AS IF they have 'zero' or no list of serious problems that afflict those human beings who are "White", just as they do Blacks.

    I'm fine not pointing at White people and blaming... but for God's sake, White people please grow up and see the WHOLE AMERICA, not that rose-colored, filtered and shuttered view from "whiteness" that is so contemptuous, arrogant and annoying. Please folks, there are plenty of awesome people of EVERY DAMNED COLOR, and if people did not have fracking "GOOGLE", I'd cut them a break and relegate it to ignorance. But no... no more excuses. We as Americans can NO LONGER excuse racist actions or expressions.

    Here is the reality, if a person sees racism being perpetrated upon another and does not try to make things better by saying or doing 'something', then they are only allowing ALL that ails this nation to become a greater problem. Yes, these effects and struggles WILL affect your children and loved-ones; you will NOT be able to shield them from the world you helped 'mold'. Sure, we cannot fix 'everything' in our individual lifetimes... but we certainly can take up a bag of GOOD (compassionate) SEED and sow it throughout our lives. Plant good stuff and let it grow, don't go choking it out by grafting in the hatred and pain of "racism".

    Please, let's get a grip and set a goal of treating others BETTER.
     
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