BREAKING: Bolton to Claim Trump Held Up Ukraine Military Aid Over Biden Investigations

In your opinion it doesn't point to Trump pressuring Ukraine. For others, it does.

Well, you find it odd, because for you there's no evidence.

Similarly, I find it odd that Hunter Biden is condemned for landing a cushy job.

To me, that's not evidence of anything. Not good optics perhaps, but not evidence of wrong doing. Particularly as the General Prosecutor, National Anti-Corruption and all other relevant Ukrainian agencies have all explicitly stated that he is not - and never has been - suspected of any wrong doing. And further, that corruption cases relate strictly to the owner's activities when Minister of Ecology, from 2010 to 2012.

 

At least some of your now are admitting to this all as presumptions and opinions.

 

For many, that word and that of the witnesses, recalling their first-hand experiences, is sufficient proof. And, as such, he should be called to account.

You disagree that the evidence is sufficient, but I would hope that you nonetheless agree with the principle that it is not acceptable for a president to engage a foreign power in US elections, and that if the evidence was sufficient - in your mind - that you would agree that a president should indeed be held to account.

 

The same leaked publication James Comey used and will live
to regret.The Dreaded leaker James Comey and his leaker publication,
The New York Times.PLus the Identical Twin brother of suspected WH Leaker
Lt.Colonel Alexander Vindman is his Brother Yevegeny who has an office
across from Lt.Col. Alexander.
Yevegeny is also a Lt.Colonel and is acting National Security Council
Senior Ethics lawyer.
The NSC is probably doing most of the leaking as to why Whistleblower
Eric Ciaramella who was detailed to the NSC at the White House in 2015.
Last week it was learned that this Eric fella was reported to have bragged
while working in the WH about efforts to have Trump Impeached,back in
2017.
This is a pattern and not coincidence.
Real Clear Politics has reported that CIA whistleblower Ciaramella
had a discussion with Sean Misko { as overheard } about how to oust
President Trump from his duly-elected position.
Misko was an Obama operative who went on to work { joined the
staff } for Rep. Adam Schiff.
" Just days after he was sworn-in they were already talking about
trying to get rid of him " said an individual in the White House who
overheard the conservation between Ciaramella and Sisko.
" They weren't just bent on subverting his agenda " the source said.
" They were plotting to actually have him removed from office. "

 

More talking points I don’t need.

 

Let the Turtle decide then. It is up to him.

 

Please point us to ONE Ukranian that says they were pressured by the withholding of $ to investigate the bidens.

 

It's really not... McConnell has way more power than he can handle, but he's only a part of this equation...

 

Way to miss the point ...

At the very, very least it's a conflict of interest for senile corrupt joe 30330. THAT is a criminal act under 18 USC 208.

 

Trump hardly knows him, right? He was only in the administration for a short time??

Yawn...

Bolton is in the limelight due to his apparent disgust at what was happening during his attempts to start a war with every other country on earth... That had to tick him off...

 

Maybe they disagreed on policy and Trump is his boss. It's Trumps call, not Bolton's and if Bolton is upset about it, that's on him, not the President.

 

Maybe.... perhaps Bolton will make that clear in his deposition...

 

If there is no wrong doing in your estimation then what fault do you find with the o0ptics?

 

These charges would be more credible if they weren't coming from people who have stated they would impeach him since the day after he was elected and before he took office. There were no first hand witnesses during the House proceedings, they were stories from some best friends second cousins boy/girlfriend and opinion.

He was impeached, he will be acquitted and reelected.

 

I agree with this analysis. As an aside, the claim that Ukraine "didn't know" that it hadn't received the aid and that it was not aware of the shakedown is silly.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...y-aid-freeze-in-july-we-had-this-information/

 

Presumably "Hunter Biden gets hired by Burisma" and "Joe Biden fires the prosecutor"

 

Trump's own words has routinely and emphatically announced support for the claim that Trump invited the interference of foreign powers into the US elections. He called for Ukraine and China to investigate the Bidens on the lawn of the White House.

 

lol. Most of the US doesn't really understand how the process is supposed to work as it's the one of the least fleshed out components in the constitution.

That said, I find it funny that you only seem interested in focusing on the procedural issues, rather then what he had to say.

 

Not at all. I didn't say that the evidence is only presumption and opinion.

I said that some have the opinion that the evidence is not sufficient.

 

I'm sorry...you think a direct quote from Trump that he was tying the military aid to the investigation of the Bidens is "nothing new?"

If you think Bolton is lying, and he very well could be lying, then demand that he testify under oath.

 

Trump is already impeached and there is a 650 page report detailing all of the evidence in support of the allegations - and that was before the news report regarding Bolton's personal account came to light last night.

 

One of the central problems with using the fact that a lot of the Ukrainian officials reached out following the Politico Article as proof that they did not know about the freeze before then is that it ignores the reason they were complaining. Many of the witnesses that Trump's defense team quoted said the reason the Ukrainians were concerned after the Politico Article was published is because it sent the wrong message politically both within Ukraine and to Russia.

That is to say, Ukraine knew about the hold on the military aid. But they did not believe - until the Politico Article came out - that Russia knew about the hold on the aid.

 

Do you consider a direct quote from Trump to Bolton to be "presumptions and opinions?"

 

He can willfully commit crimes right in our faces, and the trumpers would claim that there's "no evidence" of the crime.

 

Presumptions won't pass muster in court, that's pretty much what the whole impeachment is based on.