BREAKING - Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    So....since I don't feel like wading through- anything new or just Sheriff Joe saying he agrees with all of the Birther talking points?

    I mean- did he actually find any evidence of anything- or just agree with Birthers?
     
  2. JIMV

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    It does not matter...the certificate could be written in crayon on TP and, as the fellow is a liberal democrat, he would be deemed 'qualified'...

    It is as it is....
     
  3. Really People?

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    Are you serious!?

    It wasn't proven to be a forgery because some bloggers and scanner salesmen say it was...

    And the only authorities who can verify its authenticity, have done so...

    Lol...

     
  4. Lunchboxxy

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    It has been varified. By officials of the State of Hawaii. Are you implying they are not experts in the record department?
     
  5. Really People?

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    Nail on the head, sir...

    Nail on the head...
     
  6. Mac-7

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    Yada, yada, yada.

    State officials in an overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat state confirm the identity of a favorite son?

    You will have to do better than that.

    And the best way is to allow independent and partisan forensics and forgery experts to see the evidence.

    If Obama is telling the truth he has nothing to hide and no reason to hide it.
     
  7. Really People?

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    It has been proven that, no matter what, birthers will not believe anything, except what they want to believe...

    Even if you were to put it in a colorful book, in nursery rhyme format, they are incapable of comprehension...

    Which is precisely why I didn't do it...
     
  8. Lunchboxxy

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    Do you have some evidence that the officials in the state of Hawaii are lying? Or that they are not experts at their jobs in the record department? Otherwise you are just spouting off bat(*)(*)(*)(*) conspiracies.
     
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    No nothing new.

    Well, his lead investigator did debunk the Birther claim that layers in a pdf are signs of forgery. But he then went on and so badly misrepresented the facts about those layers that he pretty much proved he has no idea what he is talking about.
     
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    It's so pathetic that fox news doesn't even have it on their homepage.
     
  11. CoolWalker

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    I'd love to post it, but it is in my eMail and that is not possible. I will give you a brief excerpt however:

    "As I said at the beginning of the investigation," Arpaio said, "the president can put all this to rest quite easily. All he has to do is demand the Hawaii Department of Health release to the American public and to a panel of certified court-authorized forensic examiners all original 1961 paper, microfilm, and computer birth records the Hawaii Department of Health has in its possession."

    Arpaio further stressed the Hawaii Department of Health needs to provide, as part of the full disclosure, evidence regarding the chain of custody of all Obama birth records, including paper, microfilm, and electronic records, in order to eliminate the possibility that a forger or forgers may have tampered with the birth records.

    Arpaio went on to say the President should also authorize Kapiolani Hospital, the birth hospital listed on the Obama long-form birth certificate, to release any and all hospital patient records for Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, his mother, and for the newly born Barack Obama, in order to provide additional corroboration for the original 1961 birth records held in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.
     
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    So, how about when it was verified the Health Director, under a Republican governor?

    That wasn't good enough either, was it?

    Nobody is stupid here...

    Well, almost nobody...

    Birthers have their minds made up...

    If you were to put them in a time machine, and transport them directly to Obama's birth, you'll still get fingers in the ears going, "Nuh-uh, nuh-uh..."
     
  13. The Mello Guy

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    or just ignore him and keep laughing at birthers while they embarrass themselves
     
  14. Really People?

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    So, the same ol birther talking points then...

    The only document expert who has examined it to date even said, the only people who can verify the authenticity of the BC, the State of HI, has done so...

    Nothing will ever be good enough for birthers...

    If I were Obama, I wouldn't acknowledge them at all...
     
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    ..."and the walls came tumbling down"...I don't think he can fluff it off this time, and if there was no tom-foolery, what is the problem?
     
  16. Really People?

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    Why would they?

    I'd consider them a legit news agency, and, no self-respecting news outlet is gonna touch this stupidity...

    But, I expect within 2 pages or so, somebody at Fox will be in the tank for Obama as well...
     
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    Yada Yada Yada

    The Republican Governor and the Republican Director of Health and the long time civil servant Registrar of Records all confirmed the place of birth of candidate Obama.

    That you do not trust their documents, think that even Republican politicians are in on the Conspiracy just shows that there is no point in bothering to try to prove anything else.

    Compare: There are five candidates for President.

    One you have seen the birth certificate for, and has been vouched for by two governors, two State Directors of Health, confirmed by his birth announcements.

    The four other candidates you have seen no evidence that they were born in the United States at all.

    The one you demand more proof from is the only one who has shown proof he was born here.

    The other four, you just accept that they must have been born here.

    And the conservatives here have the audacity to call liberals gullible.
     
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    Fluff what off?

    Arpaio has nothing of substance, only more recycled birther talking points...
     
  19. SFJEFF

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    Thats what I would do.

    But he is a better politician than I am- so who knows what he might do.
     
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    are those various disconnected phrases supposed to mean something?
     
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    based on past history he will play this one close to the vest....maybe save it for right before he shoots another major terrorist in the head.
     
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    If by "birther" you mean someone who is convinced Obama is a fraud I think there are very few of them.

    But millions of Americans are rightfully suspicious of the evidence he has presented so far and want to know there has been independent verification.

    Other posters here want to know what evidence I have the the officials in Hawaii are lying.

    I don't have that evidence.

    If I did that would make me a birther wouldn't it?

    But I don't have to take their word for it just because I'm so naive that I believe everything that I'm told either.

    Let's see the evidence if it exists.
     
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    His "answers" are the same old questions. It looks like Arpaio offers nothing new or unique.

    He's just another birther parrot.
     
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    No trump got paid off, to keep his mouth shut....
     
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    They're not foreigners invading america. They're refugees created by NAFTA and the drug war. Most of them have risked their lives to provide a better life for their families And they're doing jobs most americans don't want to do or are too soft to do. A good example of foreigners invading a country is the terrorist invasion of Iraq that created 2,000,000 Iraqi refugees. The same bigots whining about immigrants tend to be the same people who supported the invasion of Iraq. Those people have lost their right to complain about anything.
     
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