BREAKING: Texas Man Who Led Anti-mask Protests In Name Of ‘freedom’ Dies Of Covid-19

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    How is the info clear when countries are using it today to treat COVID and there are over 270 active clinical trials. Does science just evade you?

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    You talk about cheering death in a lot of your posts....
     
  3. Bearack

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    Wow.... You're just a terrible, terrible person!
     
  4. AKS

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    He did not die because he refused to wear a cloth around his face. WTF is wrong with peoples ability to execute simple reasoning?
     
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    MAYBE AT BEST. What is their efficacy in practice?
     
  6. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    That's the current science. I don't have the details.

    A 100% mask can be rendered ineffective, so I'm guessing the number does not include improper use.
     
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    My perspective is based on this. Since the beginning of Covid, the left opposed Trump travel restrictions designed to limit the spread of Covid and now let Covid infected people swarm into the country introducing mutated variants. The World Health organization (when Trump was in office) cautioned against travel restrictions. In other words the left seemed to want Covid to spread.

    So now liberal demands that people wear face diapers should be taken seriously? I just don't see the logic in this. Is the mask wearing to make people think Government is effective in dealing with Covid when they are not? Or perhaps to demonize political opponents like Ron Desantis?

    Trump Travel Ban. Importing Covid was a good thing when Trump was in office.
    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

    Now here is the Biden plan taken from his Web site. The Biden "plan" is total BS like his Afghan withdrawal plan. Notice the ability of the Federal government to spew out statements that sound good and mean nothing, e.g., "restoring trust, credibility, and common purpose" or "rallying the World." What does that mean exactly?

    Notice how in his FEMA press conference Biden removed his ineffective cloth diaper/mask from one ear leaving it dangling from his other ear. Then rubbed his nose with his hand. Demonstrating that masks increase face touching,

    Here is the Biden plan.
    https://joebiden.com/covid-plan/
    Can anyone explain how the Biden plan will do Jack Sh*t.

    The Biden Plan calls for:
    • Restoring trust, credibility, and common purpose.
    • Mounting an effective national emergency response that saves lives, protects frontline workers, and minimizes the spread of COVID-19.
    • Eliminating cost barriers for prevention of and care for COVID-19.
    • Pursuing decisive economic measures to help hard-hit workers, families, and small businesses and to stabilize the American economy.
    • Rallying the world to confront this crisis while laying the foundation for the future.
     
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    And proper use of masks in practice approaches zero. Does that tell you anything?
     
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    I took the vaccine but it is hardly "perfectly safe." People have experienced side effects from the experimental Covid vaccinations and the liability has been waived for the companies that produce these vaccinations for a reason. All vaccinations have some side effects. One being possible auto-immune diseases caused by adjuvants.

    This idea by Fauci that we will get vaccinated every 5 months is absurd.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His children are better off not having an imbecile like him for a role model.
     
  11. Sage3030

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    There may be some evidence, but from overseas studies. Off-label use is a common practice in the US.

    People are overdosing because they are taking the horse dewormer, which has more ivermectin in it and is not made for humans. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone took more than prescribed, but follow your prescription and you shouldn’t OD.
     
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    I don’t think they would have, necessarily. As there aren’t really studies going on over here, they aren’t going to really comment on studies from overseas. The FDA is going to stick with their own stuff.

    Idk if it will help, and I’m not suggesting taking it either at this time. I do believe the demonization of it is unfounded as it could possibly help as an off-label use but we just don’t really know yet.
     
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    Where did I say to use it for COVID? And I’m not sure the info is clear. There are studies currently going on overseas that show possible promise. It’s too early to tell and the demonization of something that could possibly help is ridiculous.

    I will say no one should take the horse dewormer though.

    I guess by your response there was nothing wrong with my post. Thanks for the confirmation.
     
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    It tells me some people don't use them properly. Some people don't use their seatbelts, either. The masks themselves are about 20% effective though.
     
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    Is that all it tells you? Interesting. It tells me that people, in general, won't wear them properly and therefore any impact on covid spread is most likely making things worse!
     
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    You nor I know how many people don't wear their masks improperly, so you're only speculating. As to making things worse, how's that?
     
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    In your name-calling rant, you accidentally made a good point. A compromised immune system, mostly due to illness, is the main factor in Covid risk. The risk for healthy people is extremely low, so the only advantage for healthy people would be preventing spread. As you just admitted, that is not the case.
     
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    How come you don't post the horror stories of those who died from the vaccines and had very bad side effects?
     
  19. AKS

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    Maybe we don't know it to 10 decimal places but it's pretty damn easy to make a general observation. I am speculating to some extent but do you doubt that the VAST majority of the public are not using masks correctly?
    As to making it worse it's pretty simple, there are venues that people visit that some would not if they knew the level of protection a mask was really providing. People who wear the same mask for months may be contributing to increased spread. A 10% MAXIMUM efficacy is not enough to justify it's use when it's use also leads to more dangerous behavior. And it does.
     
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    Feel free to wear a mask all you want. I see people alone in their car wearing one.

    Can you elaborate on your example?
     
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    Your point about making it worse may be correct. As far as observation, I see more people wearing them properly at work. I don't pay much attention at the store. It's all speculation.
     
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    Again, 20% effective if worn and handled 100% correctly. I can almost guarantee at least 95% of the population do not wear their mask correctly, and 99% constantly reuse the same mask after touching everything and then the mask.

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    Speculation. I'll keep an open mind until and if there is hard data.
     

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