Leaving the EU doesn't involve leaving NATO. But having us onside in EU trade negotiations certainly seems to please our non-EU allies. No one cares about Mr Obama now, he is a lame duck. By the time the next negotiations come along, he won't be there. All we have to do is be polite to him. Easy, he can go have dinner with the Queen. Keep him out of everyone's way.
Hope the old girl doesn't ask him 'how far he's come'. She's so used to asking everybody she meets that she'll probably do it by rote.
I know, and we don't have to leave - they'd miss the intelligence we're able to provide too much because they desperately need it, and if we did leave they'd be begging us to come back.
Looks like Ian Duncan Smith of the Clan Conservatives, is quite worried about BO peep using that Bully pulpit. ‘Hypocrite’ Obama Called In To ‘Bully’ UK Voters..... President Obama is visiting the UK this week because the British Prime Minister asked him to bully voters into backing European Union Membership, according to a former Conservative Leader. Iain Duncan-Smith, who led the party from 2001 to 2003, said David Cameron had begged Obama "on bended knee" for help to "bully the British people" in the upcoming referendum. Obama is expected to arrive in London on Thursday, he will see HM The Queen as part of her 90th birthday celebrations, but has also indicated he will give his views on Britain’s EU membership. Duncan Smith said: “It’s inconceivable that the president of the United States would be asking to do exactly the same for the USA as now appears to be the case, or might be the case, for him to advise the UK to do with regard the EU. “I don’t quite understand why any American president would want Britain to be any other way - unless of course they want the US to join the EU too. Maybe that is the subtext of the speech or comments about to be made.” He later told the Daily Telegraph: "Let's cut all the rubbish out of the way, he's doing it because the Prime Minister has gone on bended knee to him and said, 'come over and help us bully the British people into making a decision.” The intervention by Obama comes as tensions ahead of the referendum rose significantly after the government wrote to every British household advising them to vote to remain in the EU. The move came despite the prime minister promising in advance that government departments would be neutral. Today the Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, joined three cabinet colleagues to launch a Treasury report claiming families would lose $6000 a year if Britain regained its independence. However, the claims were branded ‘project fear’ by Brexit campaigners.....snip~ http://townhall.com/tipsheet/andrew...e-obama-called-in-to-bully-uk-voters-n2150543 Wow, Cameron sent word to every home, huh? Kind of like sending everybody a check for overpaying taxes. Will you take back your sovereignty or just be another voice with the EU's version of the United States of Europe. Which basically is the French, and Germans dictating things. Despite all involved. The EU is dumping on Greece again.....so More than likely if they see the Brits leave. They will join in on that parade. I think they are done kissing the EU's ass.
A sensible quote. I am remain voter,though somewhat Eurosceptic (rather than phobic) the Euro enthusiasts, however,often do their best to antagonise 'middle England' and make no effort to disguise their sneering condescension to the Average English voter. I left a local remain group because it was dominated by the Metropolitan elitists who had very exclusionary politics and were using the group to alienate ordinary people who were in the 'I don't know' camp.
She should ask him.....so what ass kissing did you do with the Saud and Sunni Arabs before coming here.
WTF has my ass kissing the Saud and Sunni Arabs got to do with Brenda's birthday? 'Non-sequiturs R' Us'.
Oh.....were you pimping for BO peep now, despite his farewell and apology tour? Just when did you do the Vulcan mind-meld with him? Moreover what did you think of the Putz's lame excuse over terrorism as a reason for the Brits to stay in the EU?
No but you were with that bit on, WTF does your ass have to do with Kissing ass with the Saud, and the Ass-kisser I was talking about was BO peep. So just how did you roll up and take his place?
I've just gone back to re-read what you wrote, and see that I misinterpreted it. It happens sometimes in this medium.
Thanks for acknowledging that Cerberus.....as you see most of Resident lefties of the American Blend, have troubles doing so. Like Hillary a vast majority of them have issues with being honest. So did you get a chance to read what BO peep wrote in the Telegraph.....while preaching to the Brits? I thought that excuse about terrorism he tried to play was lame. Considering his failure to deal with Terrorism of the Islamic Blend.
I think he's got a bloody nerve interfering, but it isn't so much the UK leaving the EU, as the implications of doing so will be for NATO. I was corrected the other day that we'll still be in NATO if we do leave, but I'm still convinced there's some nuance which means that our leaving will be to the detriment of the US - I mean if there wasn't, then why should he care one way or the other? - and that's why he's getting in on the act. I'll be glad when he's gone though - I just wish he'd take Cameron with him!
I don't see any detriment to the US over you guys pulling up out of that EU. Naturally the Peep likes to make (*)(*)(*)(*) up on the fly despite whoever is writing his lil speech. If anything.....we should be looking to make sure the EU doesn't screw you guys over. By upping more trade with you guys, and refraining from us bailing out the IMF and the EU. We should be backing your play over your Sovereignty. As its clear the French thinks they are running the Damn Show for the EU, and that they can determine whats up with others monies.
I've said this before, MMC, and I'm quite chuffed with it: If the European Union were a village the UK would be its idiot.' It's a colloquialism based on the notion that there's a resident idiot in every English village.
We just want to get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of it, MMC. I shudder to think how much our membership has cost us over the years - I'd guess at least £1tr if it's a penny! What a disaster. But hey, that's 'bureaucrats' for you? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing useless in everything they do. Every one of them is a total waste of space.
I can't believe the majority of the people over there listen to BO peep. Knowing he is a failure with Foreign Policy and most overseas. Did you happen to see all he wrote in the Telegraph. I haven't pulled it up yet. But eventually I will. Cameron is a knucklehead to count on BO for assistance. Especially after BO blamed him for the crap in Libya.
It will be even worse with Hillary. You guys over there and your media needs to start talking about how Hillary has been compromised. That she will be ten times worse than the peep. You will have to deal ten times more with the dishonesty. Truly your people should be standing on the point that Hillary cannot be trusted to ever do the Right thing. But now....she will mimic BO and try and tell you guys to stay in the EU. Then by the General she will slightly flip on the matter unless the French up some more money to her Clinton Foundation.
I do. The UK is US friendly in a way that the rest of the EU is not. We are more culturally compatible societies. While in comparison to the US even the most right wing of us here in the UK are all loony tunes lefties, we feel the same way about continental Europe. Even the most right wing of them are very far left of our average. Going from the US to the EU, this political divergence is even more pronounced. So in negotiations like TTIP for example, you are going to miss us. The EU is not internationalist and it's not free market driven. Trade wise with the US, the UK has a very harmonious relationship. By and large we import about as much as we export. One year we have a small trade surplus, the next year we have a small trade defecit. Overall it's pretty even. By and large we both benefit equally from our trade together. For the UK and the EU this is not at all the case. We buy lots from them, they buy little from us. Our country quite literally becomes poorer the longer this trade continues un-tariffed.
That's why.....I don't think it will be any detriment to us. Moreover, if you guys aren't involved with something like TTIP. We can still talk with you and get the feedback on whatever issue. Without the rest of the EU.....knowing anything about it. Which in my mind would be a very good thing.
Yes, but we can't offer you any friendly/allied vote in those negotiations once we leave. You can talk all you like to us, but we will no longer hold any influence. Talking to us about it will pointless. (Nice as it still is to converse with you of course).
Well even Bloomberg here is calling it as BO intervening. Along with a couple of others. So Ian Duncan Smith of the Clan London. Isn't far off the mark at all. BO just played the Hypocrite. However he stated the result of the vote “is a matter of deep interest to america.” “The tens of hundreds of Americans who rest in Europe’s cemeteries are a silent testomony to only how intertwined our prosperity & safety truly are,” Obama wrote. European coordination on intelligence sharing, counterterrorism & economic growth “shall be far simpler” if Britain stays within the EU, he wrote, including: “The European Union doesn’t moderate British influence — it magnifies it. A robust Europe just isn’t a threat to Britain’s global leadership. Jacob Rees-Mogg, another anti-EU Conservative member of Parliament, said: "I can't think the British people will want to be told what to do by a rather unsuccessful American president who has had one of the least successful foreign policies in modern history." .....snip~ http://www.lasvegasnvblog.com/2016/04/obama-pens-op-ed-calling-on-britain-to-keep-in-european-union/ http://www.newsjs.com/url.php?p=htt...s-it-hypocritical-of-the-u-s-to-oppose-brexit I have mention that the New Repub President should make a comment on how he would like to get that bust of Churchill back. This way you guys can give it back as a gift. Which will be a fitting reward for BO's legacy.....humiliated for the Annuals of History.
He's not the only leader of one of our trade partners making this call. The Aussie's are too. The Aussie PM said much the same. Please stay in the EU and keep helping us with our negotiations. With regard to Mr Obama, at least he has kept Mrs Clinton out of office. Mr Obama may be no great friend of Great Britain, but the Clintons are our enemy. They conspired to kill our people. Funded IRA terrorism personally. If you were a smaller nation, the SAS would have dealt with Bill already. So er.. at the risk of telling you what to vote.... Don't vote Hillary please. I know you don't care much for my opinion in what is ultimately your people's decision, but it does affect me too. I have a voice and I am happy to raise it in my own interests.
Of that.....you have no worry. I can absolutely guarantee you that so much so.....you can make bank off any bet saying I would do so otherwise. Let the EU learn to negotiate on their own, and tell that Aussie PM to learn the Art of the Deal.
We have a debt to the Aussie's and also a love for them. It's our privilege to skew any negotiations we can in their favour.
