Business owners have mixed reactions to Dallas County DA's new policies

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    No, those grocery stores will just stop ordering the frequently-stolen items, and stop stocking them.

    There are no "surpluses" in modern logistics.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    A person whose livelihood and means of feeding their family is being stolen from them.
     
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    That's exactly what will happen.

    The problem with food pantries, is you're not getting at the same food at pantries as what you can get at grocery stories. The food pantries are mostly "staple foods" and they are far from nutritious. Pasta, pancake batter, expired grocery store sheetcakes, rubbery canned green beans(that the poors won't touch), sacks of rice and beans, etc....

    Once your grocery stores close, and you're dependant upon food pantries, you are well and truly living in a barren desert of junk foods.
     
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  4. Derideo_Te

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    Thank you for proving my point!
     
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    Petty theft? I can assure you that if you broke into my home and took $750 worth of stuff, it wouldn't feel petty to me. We'd take a pretty big hit.

    Now, if 10 somebodies took $750 worth of stuff from a grocery store each day, that's $7,500/day. On a monthly basis, we're talking $225,000. Not even remotely petty. What if 100 people decide they need free groceries each day?

    I can't believe you are condoning theft.
     
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    I can't believe that you are condoning shooting a 100 starving people each day!
     
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    I missed the part where the DA made the qualifier that you have to be starving to get permission to steal, consequence free. Please quote that.
     
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    Read the entire article linked in the OP or read what I quoted from it in post #66 above.
     
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    Not a single word from the DA that you have to be starving to qualify for stealing the stuff. Can you quote the part where he says, "This only applies to people who make $X or less?"
     
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    So you have to prove you are under the poverty line to qualify? I didn't see that.

    So if a group of teenagers steal some lunch meat & bread, they will be prosecuted if their parents are over the poverty line? Where is this policy outlined?
     
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    In 2016 the national poverty rate was 12.7%.

    In TX it was 15.6%!

    http://bettertexasblog.org/2017/09/new-texas-household-income-poverty-rate-census-numbers/

    Almost one in four children in TX live in poverty!

    But killing them seems to be the ONLY answer that TX has if you go by the posts in this thread.
     
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    Feeling cute, may go to Dallas later and steal $749 worth of formula, idk.
     
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    That's not an answer. Point out where the DA laid out parameters needed to qualify for consequence free thieving. Something along the lines of, "I will not prosecute, but only if you are really, really poor."
     
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    How many people who dont currently live in poverty once did...

    *raises hand*

    And to think I didnt need to steal anything to be middle class.
     
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    As usual, the story is a little more nuanced:

    "“Maybe I should say consumption items. Maybe we should have put that word in there,” Creuzot said. “We're talking about food and formula that people need to live. Maybe I didn't put enough words in when I said personal items. Maybe I should have said personal consumption items.”

    I don't think food and formula are high-theft items. I think people already know that prosecutors have limited resources and thefts of things like food aren't very likely to be prosecuted.
     
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    Which part of this statement are you having a problem understanding?

     
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    Formula is a VERY hot ticket. I was an ICM at a large warehouse and the formula was kept separate because even the employees would steal it.

    We had people try to sneak into our warehouse to steal it.

    It's expensive, and people love to steal it.
     
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    Got to wonder how well an election goes in TX when a prosecutor brags about being "tough on crime" because he locked up hundreds of women living in poverty because they stole formula for their babies?
     
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    Fix that QUOTE immediately because that is NOT what I posted!
     
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    You are very wrong. I thought this was pretty well known. Baby formula is ridiculously expensive. It's going to be awesome to be a black market dealer in Dallas, but only until the grocery store owners close up shop because they can't make a profit.

    There’s a thriving black market for baby formula
    https://nypost.com/2016/01/07/theres-a-thriving-black-market-for-baby-formula/
     
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    So you sort of didn't represent the entire statement of the DA in your post. He's basically not going to spend resources prosecuting someone for stealing baby formula. I think most of us can agree that if someone is stealing baby formula, locking them up in prison isn't going to help anything least of all the baby. On the flip side, it's best not to steal.

    What this says to me is Texas should just start handing out baby formula. Why let people go without it? It's cheap, it's not a huge money maker for anyone, and it avoids the potential issue (I'm not sure how big a problem it is) of people having to steal life essentials.

    The DA didn't say they wouldn't prosecute someone stealing a 749 dollar stereo. So I have a hunch this statement really doesn't mean that much at all. Criminals who think they can argue that anything they steal meets this not to prosecute criteria are probably fooling themselves.
     
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    You're right, it is high-theft. I stand corrected.
     
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    We're the richest country in the world. I think we can afford to give baby formula to struggling mothers. What say you, pro-lifers? You supposedly care about fetuses and babies and all that.
     
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    Completely disagree. There's a huge black market for formula. The dealers aren't buying from mothers who need to feed baby. They are stealing from thieves who profit by stealing formula. Now the Dallas DA has told the black market to head to Dallas and grab all you need; just don't steal more than $750 per grocery store.
     

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