Can anyone show a single piece of viable evidence a GOD exists?

Well here you are once again conflating "belief in something" with "feeling something." Love is a description of a certain biochemical reaction. God is too, but you aren't positing the existence of God as a biochemical reaction, you are referring to him as an independent entity with a will of his own.

 

But as I said above, this "feeling of love" that is a result of a biochemical reaction does not have to be present to prove that one is in love with another.

Similarly, the absence of certain "feelings" that result when an individual is in prayer does not mean that this person's belief in God ceases.

 

What I'm saying is that if you believe God is a certain biochemical reaction in the brain, than you are absolutely correct, and based upon the evidence, you would be right to say that.

But that isn't what you are arguing. You are trying to say that because you have a biochemical reaction by thinking about God, God exists, at least as much as "love" exists. Which isn't the case, because your idea of God isn't "that nice feeling I get when I meditate" but instead "a literal being who exists elsewhere and has an independent will and complete control of the universe."

One belief - God as a nice feeling - has evidence, the other doesn't. Any belief without evidence cannot be seen as valid.

 

I agree. However, I don't believe that God, nor Love, is but a biochemical reaction in the brain.

So does this mean that the nice feeling one has when he is "loving" has evidence, but that there is no evidence of this person being conceptually in love? Love is not simply biochemical reactions, correct? You cannot provide evidence that the concept and very essence of Love exists, but you nevertheless "believe" in it. This makes sense, as the love between one and another stays intact regardless of the presence of chemical reactions in the brain.

 

That's an incredible amount of biochemistry for me, and I have an average family size.

 

Parts of it have been proven as FACT as a short while back NASA Probes proved Gravity to be 1-D Warping of Universal Space-Time just like Einstein stated it was.

As far as our Universal Space-Time Reality being at MINIMUM 10-D...it is probably 11-D or more.

As far as whether the Many Worlds or Multiversal Theory aspect of Quantum Mechanics is concerned...we cannot definitively prove it BUT WE HAVE MADE PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS USING IT AS A MODEL!!

Nothing say's....THAT HAS TO BE REAL....like a Practical Application!! LOL!!

As far as how a Supermassive Red Giant will eventually burn all it's Hydrogen and collapse and become a Black Hole....YES...we know this happens.

AboveAlpha

 

Incorrect. Love, reality, thought, feelings, all of these things are biochemical reactions, and nothing more.

 

I have no problem with people who believe in a GOD....it doesn't bother me a bit and for some people it is good for them.

But if some members post they have DEFINITIVE SCIENTIFIC PROOF that a GOD exists....I would like to see it.

AboveAlpha

 

The Torah and the Tanakh, also spelled Tanach, are two extremely important texts in the Jewish faith. To be more precise, the Torah is a portion of the Tanakh. The Tanakh, also called the Mikra, is the canon of the Hebrew Bible, consisting of three traditional subdivisions: the Torah, the Nevi'im, and the Ketuvim. The word Tanakh is an acronym of the initials of its three subdivisions, while Mikra is Hebrew for "reading."

Hebrew Bible. (Discuss) Proposed since June 2014.
Part of a series on The Tanakh (Hebrew: תַּנַ"ךְ‎, pronounced [taˈnaχ] or [təˈnax]; also Tenakh, Tenak, Tanach) or Miqra is the canon of the Hebrew Bible. The traditional Hebrew text is known as the Masoretic Text.

Tanakh is an acronym of the first Hebrew letter of each of the Masoretic Text's three traditional subdivisions: Torah ("Teaching", also known as the Five Books of Moses), Nevi'im ("Prophets") and Ketuvim ("Writings")—hence TaNaKh. The name "Miqra" (מקר&#1488, meaning "that which is read", is another Hebrew word for the Tanakh. The books of the Tanakh were passed on by each generation, and according to rabbinic tradition were accompanied by an oral tradition, called the Oral Torah.

Thus the word TANAKH existed before the word TORAH as the development of the Masoretic Text's three traditional subdivisions occured AFTER the word TANAKH was being used to document the exploits of Moses.

AboveAlpha

 

Scientific Proof? What a joke. Heck... Science is dependent upon presumptions to justify the use of the Scientific Method. What a joke.

 

I am not looking for anything.

Some members here have stated they have actual definitive scientific proof a GOD exists.

If they have such proof....or even evidence...then by all means please such members post it here.

AboveAlpha

 

No....the Scientific Method is based upon observation, accumulation of physical evidence, experimentation and it is NOT a method that is arbitrary nor dues science PRESUME anything!

Now....either YOU have some physical or even mathematical evidence that a GOD exists....or you don't.

AboveAlpha

 

Dear dood, you're like a reformed smoker ... full of the wonder of clean lungs

Seriously now, my mission is not directed at you personally (sweet that you think it is, though), it is to keep the flaws in religion out there, in broad daylight, as publicly as possible. We have 1700 years of domination by fear to address. That you think doing so is anything other than long (*)(*)(*)(*)ing overdue speaks of how important it is to let people know the sky won't fall if they face the nonsense head on.

 

I stated that if a person believes in a GOD and LOVES that GOD whether such a GOD exists or not....the exact same Biochemistry is occurring in their body and brain when they are thinking about a person, dog, cat, city, song, or brand of chocolate they LOVE.

This has been proven and there is a huge amount of data anyone can spend hours going through that proves it.

AboveAlpha

 

Wrong! Observation is a tool used in the Scientific Method. The Scientific Method is justified by mere assumptions. Taking certain things to be true without proof.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

"Working scientists usually take for granted a set of basic assumptions that are needed to justify the scientific method: (1) that there is an objective reality shared by all rational observers; (2) that this objective reality is governed by natural laws; (3) that these laws can be discovered by means of systematic observation and experimentation.[SUP][3][/SUP] Philosophy of science seeks a deep understanding of what these underlying assumptions mean and whether they are valid."

Also see www.tfd.com/assumption

"as·sump·tion (-smpshn)n.1. The act of taking to or upon oneself: assumption of an obligation.
2. The act of taking possession or asserting a claim: assumption of command.
3. The act of taking for granted: assumption of a false theory.
4. Something taken for granted or accepted as true without proof; a supposition: a valid assumption.

5. Presumption; arrogance.
6. Logic A minor premise."

 

But that is not the case. What occurs in the brain during prayer is different than what it occurs to it when during the process of "loving."

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You've convinced me.

 

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It depends what you are praying for.

If you are expressing your LOVE of GOD in Prayer...same thing happens....if you are praying that your HORSE you bet on at the TRACK comes in 1st....different part of the brain! LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Well, what if I'm not expressing my love for God?

 

Well then....unless you were professing your love for someone or something then a different set of Biochemical effects would occur.

AboveAlpha

 

A set of biochemical effects that occur during prayer and the like, correct?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ditation-affect-brain-activity_n_1974621.html

 

A person undergoing a CT Scan or MRI and is stimulated by some aspect of LOVE or thoughts of a GOD or even if tey are HUNGRY is going to have specific parts of their brain light up that details the Neurotransmitter Response or Created Response.

Now some people who begin to think in a manner of LOVE....might have some different combinations of neurotransmitter activity as everyone associates things a bit differently but we know that a person thinking a a man or woman or cat or dog they LOVE will have a specific part of their brain light up and specific Biochemical releases will occur.

Now as far as a person PRAYING....such areas of the brain that light up depend upon the person once again and the way they thing as well as their ability of analytic and emotional and social intelligence.

Now I PRAY myself but not in the manner that say a Highly Religious person does.

Since I have a very indepth understanding of how...although not completely proven....our ability to develop Practical Aplications lends me to believe that there is an exchange of Quarks going on between alternate versions of ourselves in Divergent Universal States.

Real World evidence that backs this up?

Even though I am the BIGGEST SKEPTIC ON THE PLANET....when I began renovating my beautiful home in Western Mass I was turning what used to be known as a COLD ROOT AND BODY ROOM as back in the old days people would have a small room in their home where they would store cabbages and Potatos and Onions and fruits of their Gardens but as well it also DOUBLED AS A MORGUE.

Peoples bodies would be placed in there and usually the family would have a sort of Wake and then the dead used to be burried in the Earth of the families property.

Well....one day while renovating I SAW A GHOST.

It was NOT SUBTLE.

I was not afraid and as I understand this backs the concepts of Multiversal Theory I tried to communicate with it but it dissapeared.

This was not the last time I saw her and I live with a Ghost in my home that has not appeared so dramatically as the first time I was ripping apart that Cold Room to put in a Hot Tub Room but in order for a Ghost to manifest it must draw upon an energy source as well it is capable of accesssing the human Brain and sensory system

I can talk more about this in a PM...but I know that it is real and it seems to have a real affection for me and the girls next door who take care of me.

NOW...for me to admit this is something I know some members might ridicule me for but the reality is that it did and still does hapen although very subtley...and I AM NOT ONE TO BE INFLUENCED OR EASILY OPEN TO SUGGESTION as I am a well trained..."CIVILIAN".....who works with members of a Team I lead of the U.S. Military and sometimes British SAS.

I did a LOT of research about Ghosts and I discovered that just like magnetic Tape can store data so can certain natural materials like High Quarts or Granite Content Stone.....and it would seem an act of extreme violence causes the Psionic Energy created by the Brain to IMPRINT upon such materials just like we used to IMPRINT DATA ON MAGNETIC TAPE.

Thing is....I KNOW....that the Multiverse is a much more complex thing than any Religion has or could understand or explain.

AboveAlpha

 

I am right here.

 

Would it not be more accurate to say "evidence" in place of "proof".

 

You believe in ghosts yet you hold no proof.

 

Your cut and paste that you didn't seem to understand contradicts your last statement. TaNaKh is not a word. It is an acronym and the T comes from Torah. The idea that Tanakh predates Torah is stupid.