Can We Call Trump a Killer?

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Ha ha ha ha
     
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    Not only because of his disdain for testing. But because of his total lack of support to his own CDC that is trying to save lives.

    And overall absolute lack of interest in saving human lives during this whole crisis.
     
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    Freedom of speech is drivel to you! Thanks for admitting that.
     
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    Try to prove it. Then argue about freedom of speech.
     
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    I need not have to proove it you did it for me.
     
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    Prove that your logic makes no sense? I am not Trump, and therefore have no authority to censor your speech. Therefore your claim is false on its surface. Your hair-on-fire claim simply can NOT be supported and your pathetic attempt to deflect is now noted. He will not censor free speech as you falsely claim. Go ahead and try to prove otherwise.
     
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    You can call Trump whatever you want. Thats part of what Makes America Great. But we'll keep asking for evidense.

    What evidense do you have that the govt is reluctant to test and that Trump is behind it?
     
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  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That one is easy
     
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    Yes, you can call him killer, if you are hired as a stripper at one of the Hotels and are invited to the master suite.
     
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    The video edits out the jovial nature of that part of the presidents speech and the crowd laughing in response to a joke.

    Here's what he said in its full context, without the ominous music, deceptive editing and OMB narrator.



    While I agree the joke wasn't in very good taste, it does still sound like a joke.

    Do you have any evidence that testing is actually being artificially restricted?
     
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  11. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, ( see below)

    "So I says to my people, slow the testing down, please" --- DJT

    That's not a joke, that's a lament. WTFU.

    He doesn't want testing because discovering more cases makes him look bad, or so he thinks.

    The truth is it makes him look stupid, to the point of evil. Not testing enough puts America behind the eight ball.

    We're testing what, a ten thousand a day? In our nation, we need 1000 times that to get ahead of the curve in order to contain the spreading, but it won't happen with this president, Testing supplies are being held back. I tried to get tested, and the hospital said I would need to exhibit symptoms. That means they are rationing, which means supplies are short, which means the fed is going it, which means TRUMP is doing it.

    That's epic stupidity, and epic isn't weighty enough, it's mind bogglingly stupid, and EVIL. and it is KILLING PEOPLE. Of course he can drag his feet behind the scenes.


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-follows-threat-slow-testing-163220493.html

    ",.....the administration is following through on Trump’s orders to slow down testing. The Department of Health and Human Services has announced it will pull funding from more than a dozen drive-through testing sites across five states, including Texas, at the end of the month."


    WTFU. as in wake the **** up.

    Trump is a killer, and I mean every *******n word, literally.
     
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    He's repeatedly attempted to do so, even before he became president.
     
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    It did, indeed, sound like a joke at the time. But after it turned out that there are millions in unspent, Congressionally-appropriated funds for testing and after he dodged the question from Fox about if he had actually pulled back on testing, I'm afraid it is starting to look like he was serious. Plus there's the fact that he was asked if he was joking and responded by saying "I don't kid."
     
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    Your source here cites this as evidence of a testing slowdown: "The federal government is ending its support for 13 drive-thru coronavirus testing sites on June 30, urging states to take over their operations..."

    Cities and states with failing economic policies have been using the Cvirus as an excuse to funnel federal money in to delay their innevitable collapse. This narrative you're pushing is just the MSM covering for their squander and attempt to continue their wastefullness through the crisis.

    'wtfu.'

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-follows-threat-slow-testing-163220493.html
     
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    Can we call Obama a killer? He order drone strikes which killed tons of innocent people. Something far more direct than what you claim of Trump. And since that is the case perhaps the word "murderer" would be far more fitting for Obama.

    And no, this is not a whataboutism. It's a comparison based on the logic that you have presented.
     
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    I don't like the drone strikes without the consent of the host government, personally, but I understand the argument that 'in war, there will always be collateral damage, ie., innocents dying, but the drones are killing terrorists. However, I only support drone strikes with the consent of the host government, otherwise, I'm against it for THAT reason, not collateral damage because in war, it's pretty hard to avoid, but Obama did his best to avoid it as much as possible.

    But, You didn't mention the fact that Trump has ordered far more drone strikes than obama ever did, so, using YOUR logic, Trump is not only a murderer, but he is committing negligent homicide of American citizens with his withholding testing for political purposes.

    Therefore, using YOUR logic, Trump must be called homicidal maniac.

     
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    BULLSHIT ARGUMENT.

    I tried to get tested, and was told I won't be tested unless I exhibit symptoms, that means there is a shortage of tests and they are rationing tests, and that means that The ultimate reason the states are rationing is because the federal government is not supporting the states, and that is Trump, all the way, dragging his feet. National pandemics are the responsibility of the federal government, to work with the states, which is why we have the NIH and the CDC. What Trump is doing is PASSING THE BUCK so he can blame states instead of taking the heat for his incompetence

    WTFUx2.
     
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    So you think its Trumps fault that there arent enough tests to get them on demand? Maybe we should just buy them at 10x their value, tax everyone to oblivion for it and prevent the rest of the world from getting any at all... so you can get tested when you don't have any symptoms.

    Just out of curiosity: did you try offering extra money to get tested?

    And no, its not the govts responsibility to keep you safe and healthy...
     
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    "Slow the testing down, please" -- Trump

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-follows-threat-slow-testing-163220493.html

    ",.....the administration is following through on Trump’s orders to slow down testing. The Department of Health and Human Services has announced it will pull funding from more than a dozen drive-through testing sites across five states, including Texas, at the end of the month."


    Yes, I do.

     
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    If you want to continue having a discussion with me, please reply to my entire comment, not just a snippet of it. If you want to highlight a portion of it for specific rebuttal, emboldening, italicizing and underlining are great ways to do that.

    If, however, you're just here to enjoy your own ideas, then by all means continue editing me for content.
     
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    no calling the President that is illegal, its treason.
     
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    If you are a fool then yes you can call him a killer.
     
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    What happened? Is calling him Hitler not working?
     
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    LOL! Looks like lefties are beating him to the punch. While.Trump is eradicating free speech in you wild fantasies, the left is doing it for real. But I see your reasoning: the left ways accuses their enemy of doing what they are doing.
     
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    Trumps own words be enough for you?
     

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