Canadian police: 10 dead, 15 injured from stabbings

You don't see because there's no schools being shot up, or people mowed down in streets, Vegas style.

 

https://reason.com/2019/11/11/biker...-are-part-of-a-predictable-prohibition-story/

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...s/news-story/5fdb4a462ef3c50afc70522879813fe7

https://www.afp.gov.au/news-media/m...uad-seizes-more-firearms-cash-and-drugs-omcgs

https://books.google.com/books?id=y...ralia improvised firearms biker gangs&f=false

https://gatdaily.com/australian-police-10-of-firearms-seized-are-homemade/

https://books.google.com/books?id=N...ralia improvised firearms biker gangs&f=false

Sure sure sure, absolutely no crime in Australia!

 

So very true. Marksmanship is practiced under optimum conditions where you can take aim carefully, Breahe, Relax, take up the Slack and Squeeze (Keyord BRASS). Its a whole different deal when you are getting shot at and bobbing and weaving trying not to get shot. When you finally land you're probably scrunched up behind a broken fence or something and you'll take any shot you can.
I learned that on a bridge just west of Ba'aquba in Iraq. The best shot I could manage on a bad guy standing in a doorway aiming center mass, managed to hit him in the hand. He ducked into the doorway and never came back... which was plenty good enough for me.

 

And you know why there is the hottest black market? It's because it is really expensive to buy a gun, any gun, on the black market which means the huge majority of criminals cannot get a gun. Hence there is considerably less gun crime in Australia than the US hence a huge majority of Australians do not want to have a gun.
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Yeah... its hammer crime, poison crime, suffocation crime, knife crime, even DONK crime. Remember DONK? From Crocadile Dundee?

 

US murder rate is six times that of Australia so perhaps US murderers should use hammers, poisons, suffocation,knife or Donk instead of easily accessible guns.

I didn't remember Donk. Didn't like crocodile Dundee 2 though. No where near as good as the first one

 

Hottest black market on machineguns bro, not on guns generally.
You just happen to have a lot of amateur machinists and a large organized crime underculture.

 

Why not just take the guns from the criminals first? Oh **** that's right you just want regular citizens to lose their rights.

 

DONK was in Dundee I. Scene by a lake. Bad guy says to the good guy (Dundee's thin friend).. "You talk big for someone without a gun".. The little guy says "I don't need a gun... I have a DONK"... the bad guy asks him what a DONK is... this huge man-mountain steps up says "I'm a DONK" and throws the bad guy in the lake

Ah well... its our right to bera arms, vote and all sorts of things. We don't like the government picking and choosing which ones they will grant us... we live standing up... not on our knees...

 

That's exactly how it works.

Saying you're only firing 3 rounds to stop an attacker is unrealistic. The guy in Indiana that capped the active shooter fire 10 rounds and scored 8 hits and the shooter still managed to walk into the bathroom before expiring. 3 rounds to score a kill? Under perfect conditions, sure. 99.9% of shootouts aren't going to be under perfect conditions.

The average person (yes, you too) will shoot until they perceive the threat to be stopped. No one knows how many rounds they've fired when it's all over.

 

All guns on the Australian black market are out of reach of most of the Australian criminals due to the cost hence the relatively low gun crime rate.

 

Australians effectively have taken guns away from the criminals hence why they are so expensive on the black market

 

Dude, that's just not true. Go read all those links I posted for you.

 

Uh, really? HOW did they take the guns from the criminals exactly?

 

Its not, but again: You've been warned already so I'm done trying to help you out.

He was also shooting from like 40 something yards away dude. I didn't say you were limited in all circumstances to 3 rounds, I suggested judicious marksmanship and only so many shots as were reasonably necessary juxtaposed with you bragging that you'd mag dump into someone on the ****ing ground.

 

The number of shots justified are the number of shots required to eliminate the threat.

 

No one said that there aren't any guns. Your examples list numbers that are similar numbers that can be found in many American's home. Some of your links makes having two guns discovered a headline

I particularly like this from your links:
The weapons are made using instructions found online and include so-called pen and slam guns that use pipes to replicate a shotgun.

They account for about 10 per cent of all firearms being seized by police.

Firearms Squad commander Mick Plotecki said some pen guns sold for as little as $100 and were often as dangerous to the user as they were to other people.

“Most of them are very unsafe weapons, they can blow up in your hand,” he said.

“They are only single-shot pen pistols but one shot is enough. One shot can kill somebody.

Here is why homemade guns are really not advisable, and one shot! $100 for a single shot "gun" that is unsafe to the user, yep, sure many hardened criminals will buy these

 

Do you happen to know the caliber of the gun used by: "The guy in Indiana that capped the active shooter..."

Thanks,

 

9mm

 

I don't know about Canada, but I suspect that criminals share some global characteristics.

The vast bulk of violent crime is done by repeat offenders in the US. If they're put back on the streets, it will happen again.

If you have no regard for the penalties of murder, how is it you can be "rehabilitated" when the most severe consequences a country can mete out are ignored by people like this?

People who commit the most heinous crimes should never see the light of day, one way or another.

I recognize their are tiers to violent crime from acts of passion to serial killers/mass murderers.

Should someone who snaps and kills someone be released from prison? Possibly. Should someone that kidnaps and tortures someone be released from prison? Never. They should die there.

 

Thank you for your answer, Vman. I agree with you. But... are you aware that you just condemned the United States Army and their agents to rot in prison?
Hint: Abu Graib, Bagram, Black Holes in Eastern Europe etc.

Example:
"In a major development, a Guantánamo Bay detainee described his torture at CIA black sites for the first time in court last week, prompting military jurors to call his treatment a “stain on the moral fiber of America.” On Thursday, Majid Khan became the first Guantánamo prisoner to describe publicly the torture he experienced after being detained in Pakistan and then being held at CIA black sites, including forced feedings, waterboarding and other physical and sexual abuse. Khan was sentenced Friday to 26 years but under a previous deal is scheduled for release in February 2022. His unprecedented testimony only represents the “top part of the iceberg,” says Baher Azmy, legal director of the Center of Constitutional Rights, which has helped represent Majid Khan. “We need more meaningful accountability for what the United States government did to Majid and many dozens of other detainees in the so-called global war on terror.”

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/majid_khan_sentencing_statement-2.pdf
https://www.democracynow.org/2021/11/1/majid_khan_torture

 

With all due respect, that's a much larger and much different argument. Not saying it's wrong or that it's not worthy of debate....it's just beyond the scope of what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it is much bigger and deeper, and the Americans would rather brush it under the carpet than deal with it.

Back to topic!
Canadians, especially the Natives, can relax now until next time. Both knife-stabbers are deceased!
I hope all involved people and Government services learnt a lesson from this tragic incident.
The state's failure to provide adequate services to prevent child abuse and neglect is helping to breed thousands of criminals, according to a coalition of law enforcement groups.
"Shortchanging the prevention of abuse and neglect is not only cruel, but also quickly costs taxpayers far more than it saves," says a report by Fight Crime: Invest in Kids, a national group of police, prosecutors and crime victims.

Read here:
https://buffalonews.com/news/child-...cle_c15efa75-7e74-5aa6-a5a3-26021515fef4.html

 

Have you ever tried to do a drive by with a hammer? Trust me, don't try it, it's a futile endeavour

 

Except 45,000 ppl a year don't live, because of guns.