Charlottesville

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  1. Sandy Shanks

    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please look at this picture carefully. This is a group of white supremacists, members of KKK, and neo-Nazis marching on the campus of the U of V on Friday.

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    Now watch this video showing this heavily armed bunch marching down a street in Charlottesville the next day.

    https://twitter.com/_CraigStanley/status/896349016929206272

    On Saturday, Trump blamed all sides for the violence in Charlottesville despite the invasion of heavily armed protesters. By not naming the true enemy, the President received condemnation from every quarter. Pressured by Republican leadership, his own advisors, even members of his own family, three days later Trump finally relented and named America's enemy.

    "Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said in a statement to reporters at the White House on Monday.

    A day later Trump undid all of that. He told reporters he really didn't mean what he said Monday. He meant what he said on Saturday. That all sides were to blame for the carnage in Charlottesville despite the fact that most of the counter protesters were like Heather Heyer who was killed by a white supremacist. They were the home folks. They lived in Charlottesville and they resented the armed invasion of bigoted intruders.. Trump blamed them anyway.

    At Trump Tower in Manhattan Trump angrily defended himself against criticism that he did not specifically condemn Nazi and white supremacist groups following the weekend’s deadly racial unrest in Virginia, and at one point questioned whether the movement to pull down statues of Confederate leaders would escalate to the desecration of George Washington.

    “Many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,” Mr. Trump said. “This week, it is Robert E. Lee and this week, Stonewall Jackson. Is it George Washington next? You have to ask yourself, where does it stop?” he said, noting that the first American President had owned slaves. Lee and Jackson fought for the Confederacy, a rebellion against our Constitution. This is Trump's idea of getting all the facts before commenting.

    "I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it," Trump said. "You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent," he added. "No one wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now: You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit (the townspeople defending their homes) and they were very, very violent.”

    So, in Trump's view, the townspeople who were defending their city are as guilty as the heavily armed neo-Nazis, KKK, and white supremacists.

    “You also had some very fine people on both sides,” Trump said.

    David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, praised Trump’s comments as a condemnation of “leftist terrorists.”

    “Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville,”

    Republicans distanced themselves over the weekend from Trump's comments that blamed both sides for the violence in Charlottesville, Va.

    On Tuesday, they had to do it all over again.

    Senator Mark Warner of Virginia said it best. "No words," he tweeted.

    The organizer of last year’s deadly white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., got a petition approved Thursday to hold another far right event — this time directly in front of the White House.

    Jason Kessler, who organized the infamous “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville last August, was given a go-ahead from the National Park Service to throw a white supremacist protest in Washington, D.C., on Sunday.
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-right-2-rally-near-the-white-house/23499510/
     
  2. AZ.

    AZ. Well-Known Member

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    Just look at their smiles..................should send a shiver up any ones spine.....
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

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    Another Trump is a Nazi thread, keep em coming.

    It will surely help you in the mid terms.
     
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    Trump was correct.

    You are quite wrong to describe it as an invasion and misleading in claiming that the towns people were resisting.

    Antifa was there engaging in violence and they are just as reprehensible as any white supremacist.



    Denying this is extremely stupid and hypocritical.
     
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    Like 70% of them have autism.

    Completely harmless.
     
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    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Donor

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    I said no such thing. I simply provided facts, facts you couldn't challenge. You can draw your own conclusions.

    It seems you did.

    There is an old saying. If it quacks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck, it must be a duck.
     
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    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Donor

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    Still another brilliant observation from a Trump fan.
     
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    Ummm... you do know this happened a year ago, right? How are you still ranting about it?
     
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    Was Heather Heyer an Antifa activist? When I asked that question at the time, I didn't get a straight answer, just "well what difference does it make?" and "how dare you ask?"
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts from a year ago?

    What is the point of bringing up something we already know happened?

    Oh, to remind everyone how Trump is a Nazi?
     
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    It is like here in Portland. When the right-wing "activists" come to town, with their hate filled, liberal bashing message. thousands of citizens turn out to say, "Not in our town!" Out of a thousand, maybe 30 are AntiFa. Yet if one sees the right-wing media one gets the idea that all the counter protesters are Antifa.
     
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    I'm confused, why are you reposting an old story?
     
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    Trump is a Nazi? I thought he was just a spoiled rich kid who was never taught any manners and thinks, with his wealth and power, he can push around whoever he wants and get away with whatever reprehensible thing he happens to think is a good idea at the time.
     
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    Because a similar rally is going to be held near the White House tomorrow
     
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    Because this is the one year anniversary of one of Trump's prouder moments.
     
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    I saw that he mentioned an upcoming rally, but it was just strange that he didn't actually speak to it, with the majority of his post referring to the rally from last year. He said that it will be at "the U of V", what is that?
     
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    Reply from a white supremacist, proving my point.

    About what? That there were fine people on both sides. According to you, a heavily armed group of KKK, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis invade a town and you and Trump consider them "fine people." Thank you, you proved my point.

    What would you call it? There is a photograph and a video showing the invasion of heavily armed thugs. You are a true Trump fan. You simply avoid reality that displeases you. Did you even read the post you are replying to?

    I could not agree more. However, there was only a small group of antifa there and they reacted to the invasion. They were not the cause of it. The vast majority of counter protesters were the townspeople defending their homes. One of them was killed by a white supremacist. Trump pointed out they didn't have a permit. "You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit."

    Thanks again for your reply. You made my point for me.
     
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    The fact is that the demonstration in C-ville was not a "white supremacist, neo Nazi, KKK rally" but a protest of removing Confederate statues. Millions of people across the country who are not white supremacists, neo Nazis or KKK were/are against such removals, self included. Not including that necessary context is a lie of omission. Note that OP offers no evidence whatsoever that the people in the unnecessarily large picture are in fact neo Nazis, white supremacists and KKK because they -aren't-, or rather a vast majority of them aren't/weren't.

    So is the left -so- shaky in its political position that they can't honestly address ANY topic related to politics in a straightforward, factual way? Must there always be transparently dishonest revision in their narratives? It boggles the mind that adults could buy into their near perpetual lies. Yet they do.

    Are they fooling you?
     
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    Distinction without a difference.
     

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