Climate Change: It's bad and getting worse

Each and every sentence quoted above is a great mistake. What is the direction the human race is going? What is an indication that it is going? Even a slight one... a fantom one?

 

I am actually curious, what are the things we can do? (Age dependency?)

 

This sounds like water triggered human migration in the future. Also this hints that in the future water will be an easy to control commodity, such as oil today, where a few business groups (cartels?) can consolidate the industry and control supply in a way that slight fluctuations in the available volume cause gigantic fluctuations in the demand side price index. I bet that if water disappears like this, then there are already a few guys between the richest investors that are doing strategic asset allocation moves for it. (Do I understand your point?)

Isn't the human race obviously a transformer of its environment, ever since its start?

 

the first thing we can do is on an individual level.

look at our own consumption patterns. More judicious use of resources will not only help save the planet, but will in most cases save you money.

I learned from a young age to conserve resources, and think about how many lights I needed on, how much energy (and water) an item consumed when making purchases, learned to switch things off when they were not in use, etc ... this extended to journey planning, walking even when I could drive, and using public transport for some journeys despite the convenience of driving. My parents grew up in the depression and handed on their values to me. For me, there have been no hard choices, so now having invested in solar power I am a net contributor to the grid and higher fuel prices have had considerably less impact on me than they have on many people I know.

On a broader scale - a carbon tax is probably the only way now we can get the wider community to actually play their part - the hip pocket nerve is the best way to influence consumer - and business - decisions. It is sad it has to come to that - but really - we have already wasted too much time. with the lag time, we will see things get a lot worse before they stabilise no matter what we do.

we also need to invest in research - and this is something that is happening in the emerging nations, where people want our lifestyle, but goverments are already mindful of the impact of climate change. Carbon Neutral cities are already being planned in a number of places, including China and the Gulf states.

the infrastructure in these cities will include elements of design that minimise energy consumption - which will include mass transit systems as well as land useand building design.

there are a range of technologies - solar is obviously one, wind power is also used in many places, and tidal and geothermal power along with other new technologies are being researched - and show considerable promise. clean coal power has also been developed. All of these need further research and investment to increase efficiencies.

In addition - we need to look at carbon capturing - this can mean retaining natural habitats, but all the trees in the world are not enough, and reforestation is not always viable as it competes with other land use needs - so other methods are being researched.

we need to think about food production - agronomists are developing newer, better drought resistant crops, and there is a need for a lot more funding in this area as food production is already being affected by increasing drought - and flooding. we will probably also need to develop aquaculture more - as the oceans ability to feed us declines, we will need to control fish production environments to maintain food supplies.

Water is another thing - we will need to think about our use of water, and also recapturing fresh water from other sources. desal plants are one option - although energy intensive, placement of these facilities where they can take advantage of renewable energy sources may be important. again - more research is needed to increase efficiencies. we can also look at recapturing water from other sources.

changing coastal zones and low lyng areas prone to flooding are a major concern of th einsurance industry in th ewest, but also of low lying nations - especially small Island nations in the Pacific and Indian oceans.

In some cases it may be necessary to construct sea walls - although this should be subject to a thorough assessment to determine viability. population levels and other factors should be taken into consideration, as in many cases it may be better to move populations.

medical research into tropical and insect borne diseases is another area that needs to be explored - we do know that one of the predictions of climate change is that some diseases will spread to more teperate and cooler climates. We need t be prepared for this.

there is heaps more - but thats a start.

 

No... a source that discounts the significant shifts in CO2, temps, and climate shifts we've seen over the last century.

 

well that wasn't my point, which was just that already the impacts are being felt by those who have not contributed, or have contributed, only marginally.

but on the subject of water as a commodity to be controlled, you might be interested in Vandana Shiva's Water wars: privatization, pollution and profit

 

how about a source that establishes causation ?

 

just look at the science. its pretty clear.

 

care to point out the "science", most of the "science" coming from the AGW cultists is flimsy at best and atrocious at worst


AGW operates on cult principles not science

 

not really.

you are describing denialist "science" which I believe follows the cult of mammon.

 

LOL this is funny coming from someone who claims there has never been any climate changes before 1900.

 

Please point out the data that establishes causation.
I'm too dumb to understand. Even if I stumbled across it, I wouldn't recognize it. But with your superior intelligence, i know it'd be a chip shot for you.

thank you for your help.

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I take it you ARE joking, God?

 

I'm not a climatologist, but they are practically unanimous, and they know about a million times more about the question than opinionated right-wing Americans, obviously

 

care to present any data on that statement..lemme guess the email poll sent out by a grad student right

When it comes down to it there are only a handful of scientists who are still on the AGW bandwagon. The press and politicians still like to claim there is a majority, but that is for monetary and power reasons not science. The science is proving that any warming is mostly cyclical in nature and the CO2 theory is falling apart rapidly.

Why just this in the last week one of the major "climatologists" released another "hockey stick" paper which has been proven to be pretty much a joke among legitimate science

 

So you are unable to produce the causation data ?

Is this what "left wing" non-americans are good for ?

 

Oh go back to blankety school and stop wasting the world's time with your codswallop!

 

I wouldn't know what left-wing Americans (are there any?) are good for, but I know you teabags are the equivalent of those who set up the Scopes monkey trial, backwoods idiots. Stop wasting peoples' time.

 

I thank you for your honesty. It takes guts to admit that you aren't up to the task.

What's more impressive is your quick retreat to political name calling.
You must be in debate class this semester, your prowess is intimidating.

 

Apparently a Fox News viewer.

 

Apparently a Fox News viewer.

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oh no, .... they Fox news card !!

Do you have the causation data ?
Please review it with me.

 

What a profound approach!! Who do you think should head the ticket, Palin or Bachmann?

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One does not need a four year degree to spot ignorance.

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one does not need a four year degree to know you don't have the causation data.

Better luck next time.