Climate Change: It's bad and getting worse

of course you didn't. you can't do better than the truth.

 

so you really can show the data that satisfies causation criteria ?
Here's your chance.
Lay it out.

 

Ironically, the biggest greenhouse gas is water vapor, which accounts for 65%+ of all greenhouse gases.

I assert we have passed a tipping point and can't help but watch as everything goes to crap.

 

already been done countless times.

google is your friend.

 

If you couldn't do it, you should have just said so.
But instead you have taken the road of lameness.

You talk a lot, pity you can't back up the words that fly out of your mouth.

 

I assert that if everything does go to crap, it is less likely to do so because CO2 is making the earth's climate warmer, and more likely to do so because of the economic damage inflicted by efforts to stop fossil fuel use.

 

And what damage might this be? And how would it compare? Run this down for us, and explain how this guy's analysis doesn't suit the situation.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ&feature=fvwrel"]‪The Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

 

I suspect you may be correct. it will take a while, however - too slow for most people to care enough to act.

 

ok then if we have already passed the tipping point, why not put all that money and effort into dealing with the results of how the climate will be instead of trying to devolve the entire globe back to the stone age?

instead of trying to stop pollution, figure out how to CLEAN pollution, if there is too much of a chemical in the air, figure out how to remove it.

You are never going to put the genie back in the bottle, no one is willing to give up their tvs, their cars, their air conditioning, their entire way of life and poor countries are not going to be willing to STAY poor, they will continue to fight to get those tvs, cars and air conditioning..we know what modern life looks like and won't give it up. period.

everyone talks about all these alternatives but in spite of the billions thrown at them, there are no viable alternatives...so stop wasting time and money and figure out how to make the energy that DOES work better.

 

How about a world war fought over some countries' perceptions that other countries are trying to pull up the wealth ladder behind them? How about CO2 reductions that lead to global cooling and a global famine that kills billions of people when either astrophysicists' predictions of reduced solar activity are borne out or a megavolcano chills the earth?

That video is just silly sky-is-falling nonsense.

 

that is actually the point.

and redirecting funds away from (still) cheap fossil fuel alternatives will encourage the research needed, and development of new technologies that will enable us to progress.

necessity is the mother of invention. and there are numerous inventions and developments that are very close - but don't get a look in because of the dominance of the current fuel regime.

that is being researched, but prevention is generally better than cure.

you don't have to.

yes there are.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3270675.htm

 

Here is a thread, where commenters need to notice HEMP, so hit search, "Ford, Diesel, hemp, 1941 plastic car."

Hit "Canada, hemp corn surplus, industrial hemp."

You need to search "switchgrass, ultrasound." Go for "algae, biomass."

Tell you what. We admit we've lost the drug war, save a lot of money, and use THAT money, to fund anything we need.

Don't even mess around, with carbon credits.

 

Don't we have any fresh RWNJ straw men or ad hominem rants, from somebody questionable?

Come on! Get out some Gaia and Gore! After all, Gore and 98% of scientists GET MONEY! Most of them aren't even good enough, to predict cliamate change, correctly, and most of them missed how we are in the early stages, of MASS EXTINCTION EVENT 6.

Somebody ought to be able to rant his way up, to arguing, since all those warmists didn't even get out the mass extinction study, which shows from coral, how CO2 didn't even go up, as fast as it is rising, today, to cause 5 mass extinctions and the PETM event.

With all those high-profile guys TRYING TO LOSE, and with some of them into fracking, you think somebody could get the moderators to delete all those posts, which seem to prove warming is happening, climate is changing, and people should man up, or woman up, and vote for Dr. Jill Stein, for President, since that Obamney guy (whichever) won't man up, and he sure can eat or beat doggies!

 

Some more good links, when we need to read:

http://climatedesk.org/

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/climate-change

 

First of all, why wouldn't we cash in on saving the envrionment? Secondly, making more than 300K is nothing compared to what oil execs and other polluting industry or even traditional large industry execs are paid. So the only point you are making is that envrionmentalists are also capitalists, which goes against the whole they are a bunch of socialist commie arguments that I'm sure are coming, and they make far less than those who get paid to pollute the planet. I think you might be arguing for the wrong side.

There isn't anything wrong with money, but the truth is those who are in businesses that cause more climate change have more of it. For now. The economy will shift as it always does and one day that may no longer be true, but not today.

 

Hey, the reason Charlie Koch looks smart funding Richard Muller's self-outing as a former skeptic is Muller immediately admits to human-caused global warming, ignores how this is certainly causing climate change, to DENY human causes, for climate change, while completely ignoring, how every time CO2 goes up partly as fast as today, five mass extinction events resulted, or the PETM happened.

Muller then advocates abuse of natural gas, which can be had, by the Koch Brothers, via FRACKING, which tends to annoy residents, of private property, invaded by fracking operations.

Many residents have been driven from their property, which would let the Kochs turn over property, which they injure.

The boundary of skepticism vs. denial is not at human causes, for any issue, anymore. It is not at how humans are causing climate change. It is not at whether or not humans are causing mass extinction event 6, since humans are not only causing warming and climate change, but humans destoy animal habitat or introduce invasive species.

Humans did it. Man up, or woman up, and vote for Dr.Jill Stein, for President.