Climate change PROVED to be 'nothing but a lie', claims top meteorologist

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  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    In other words You don't know what causes climate change, you have no clue...it's all magical apparently...

    That you believe we can adapt while the environment collapses is scientifically naive to say the least...

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    Clearly he has very little or no understanding of the issue...
     
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    The naivete seems to be on you. What do you think happened when the last glacial period 'collapsed'?
     
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    too many SUVs and coal power plants.................................:roll:

    oh wait.................:deadhorse:
     
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    Climate change is a natural phenomena, it has happened several times in our geological record. Why do you believe it may require something as inconsistent, as "magic"?

    I believe we can, and are, evolving and effecting that form of adaptation; Stargate Atlantis comes to mind.
     
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    A statement that would apply to Lucy as well it would the Egyptians and Romans and really, humans and ecosystems going into, and coming out of, the LIA.

    A common stunt as well, claim a projection (regardless of quality) and then fight that as a strawmen to demand whatever, forced changes in human behavior, new taxes, whatever.
     
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    Thus says John Coleman, a meteorologist who co-founded the Weather Channel according in Newsmax Insider. There's no link at the blog but the story seems very clear to anyone not biased and close-minded on the subject.

    Ha ha. Toldya so. :roflol:
     
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    You cant explain it so therefore it must be magic...I dont what you're doing debating a science topic when you have no understanding of the topic....as a solution to a problem you don't know the cause of you come up with tv Sci Fi....if you were a MD you'd recommend treating ebola patients with a leg splint and an aspirin...
     
  8. wyly

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    :roflol:
    He isn't a meteorologist:roll: he's a tv weather guy, a journalist

    Next you'll want to get Hugh Laurie's medical advice because he played a MD in a tv medical drama for 9 years....
     
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    As he WAS a member of the American Meteorological Society, that made him a meteorologist! See his bio before running off at the mouth.
     
  10. wyly

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    Before running off your mouth you shouldve looked up who can join the american meteorlogical society, everyone even kids, no science degree required...which is great since he has only a degree in journalism...
     
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    That's right.

    Parrot what others say. Just because he has no formal training doen't mean he doesn't understand the field.

    Such criticisms are in poor form to shut out a voice over.

    Address what the person says, if you can follow the science.
     
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    Again, you frame that incorrectly.

    Read the definition of the metric, GWP, that you are using.

    Adding the same amount of a small mass of CO2 and CH4, CH4 increases warming more. That's only because it is on the steeper part of the log function of forcing.

    CO2 is the stronger greenhouse gas of the two. We would have to have far more CH4 in the atmosphere than CO2 before it would ever trap more heat than CO2 does.
     
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    You seem to be missing the point about the effects of climate change. Learning how to cope better is what I am referring to.
     
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    The only thing that makes sense is coping since climate will change no matter what we do.
     
  16. wyly

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    And how do you intend to help the environment cope?..apparently you believe we can magically separate humanity from environmental collapse...you live a magical world, the climate changes magically for no reason you can explain ...and the environment will magically carry on with no ill effects while we adapt with technology...
     
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    I don't think anyone is disagree the climate changes. The disagreement is the percentage of change attributed to mankind.

    Just because you believe we are causing most the climate change doesn't make it true. I know the consensus is wrong in how much the attribute to CO2, and how little the attribute to the solar changes and soot. Not only is CO2 extremely small compared to H2O, but it also cools the upper atmosphere as it increases there, where it isn't in competition with H2O for photons.

    Now I disagree with this assessment, but I have seen a few studies that claim CO2 cools the atmosphere over all. I agree it warms, but far less than the consensus claims.

    Soot is an aerosol, and aerosols are the largest man made factor we can control.
     
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    Advancing fusion energy can help. Imagine solvling the dilemma of potable water anywhere it may be needed. Providing water for drought stricken regions can help slow rising sea levels.

    It may require science fiction to allow for submerged cities.
     
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    Then I guess you are a nobody, because you're paying attention to him. Nice!!!!
     
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    So, somehow the climate changed magically for no reason until man came along?
     
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    And yet, no one can provide the experiment that adding 120PPM of CO2 will cause a temperature increase or climate change. No one. Go ahead all you pause deniers show us that experiment. And while you're at, why not just post the info from the AR5 report that states that as well, because frankly it isn't there.

    and oh, would you take a look at this: View attachment 30888
     
  22. wyly

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    Fusion is just a fantasy at this time it could be decades off if ever...in the mean time denial that co2 is the cause of this particular warming event only further delays emission reduction...drought relief off setting sea level rise is silly, the volume of water added to the oceans dwarf any amount we can use ...and who is paying for the drought relief to those poverty stricken countries, are you volunteering US funds to green the worlds deserts?...submerged cities is just what they'll be, there is no science fiction scenario that will save miami
     
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    then why isn't temperature following in the US?
    View attachment 30890
     
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    Tell that do every single Climatologist living who disagrees with you.

    You cannot look at independent gases alone you must look at their effect in our Atmoshere along with every increasing amounts of Water Vapor.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Not at all; fusion could happen in eight years or less.
     

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