Climate change PROVED to be 'nothing but a lie', claims top meteorologist

climate change happens. why are we merely playing shell games with statism?

 

Speak for yourself. Everyone else is trying to do science, while you're just running interference for your statist masters.

 

climate change happens. why do you believe it doesn't?

 

Why are you dishonesty implying the current fast warming is part of a natural cycle?

Natural cycles had the earth slowly cooling. The current fast warming is man-made, not natural.

 

More of the public should learn about Dr. Richard Lindzen. Dr. Lindzen was a participant of the IPCC panel and he quit in disgust.

He points out the weakness but gets called in the pocket of big oil. Funny how he was fully acceptable to the IPCC.

Dr. Lindzen does far more than speak on climate, he is a recognized climate expert.

And more than that, he publishes a lot of papers on climate science. Dr. Lindzen sent me a return e mail where he kindly gave me links to his papers. I urge those who believe man causes climate to read his many peer reviewed papers which he is not alone, but works hand in hand with other scientists who also agree with him.

http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen.htm

His list is very impressive.

Read his papers.

http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/PublicationsRSL.html

[video=youtube;-sHg3ZztDAw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHg3ZztDAw[/video]

 

Actually, let's say Man is behind such a scheme as to want to warm Earth.

What man should be the question?

Where is this man to be found?

Well, if you admit it is the Chinese and Indians of India behind it, show us. We know that the USA production of CO 2 is vastly reduced. Clearly it is not this country.

Why is it that parts of the USA get warmer than other parts. A course in weather is needed but safe to say for the most part, it is the El Nino effect coupled with the Arctic winds effect.

The warmers persist in making unfounded claims.

I ask them, what will you do that China and India plan to listen to?

 

There are more and more people who believe it is happening. For instance professor emeritus Guy McPherson is one of a few climate scientists who believe that the governments and corporations of the world have no real intention of combating climate change, and that it will be up to communities to radically alter their lifestyles, if we want some species, perhaps not including ourselves, to survive past the next four decades.
It is the Methane gas that is heating up our atmosphere. There is a 150 km long cloud of Methane hanging over the arctic. All ice will have melted by 2015 - 2016!!!! Imagine! That alone will have a huge impact on life on earth.

Then there is a Canadian politician and author, Paul Hellyer, who goes so far as to say that the NWO Elites are withholding information on the true state of climate affairs. According to him the root of the problem is that the NWO money mafia has pulled off “the biggest heist in history” by monopolizing the creation of currency, backed by nothing, that is lent into existence at interest. He calls the money masters and their secrecy-driven military-industrial complex “the Cabal” and says it must be overthrown to save humanity and the miraculously bio-diverse planet it inhabits.
That wont be easy, if not impossible!

Both links are very interesting. Please, cont. reading here:
http://wchildblog.com/2014/11/06/canadian-defence-minister-exposes-nwo-ufos/
and here:
http://wchildblog.com/2014/11/07/humans-must-give-up-civilization-or-go-extinct-within-40-years/

 

So fast that there has been no statistically significant warming for almost 20 years now and some scientists predict this to continue since most scientists are sticking to the science and not the consensus.

 

The statement of the warming is manmade is in theory, not fact. Therefore since you can't prove with fact that man is causing the earth to warm is misleading.

The earth heats and cools periodically.

 

Nice self exposure of how little you know of science..."Theory" in science means "accepted as true"...yes indeed, in the scientific world AGW is accepted as true/fact...

Now explain to us with your enormous science knowledge what is causing this normal periodic heating and cooling...I keep asking and no one making that claim has been able to point out this magical cause....

 

The earth has gone through cycles of heating and cooling. Accepted as fact.

AGW is not accepted as fact. It is not proven that man is causing the climate to change. All the studies say "may have an impact" or "could lead to" yet nothing that says it is without a doubt. Thus the science is not settled.

And it will never be settled now that the whole issue has been politicized.

 

ah come on...admit your just BSing you have no clue what causes these magical "natural cycles"...your making scientific claims and judgments on science knowledge you dont have...your assuming the entire scientific community can't possibly as smart as you so therefore it can't be true

 

Accepted as truth doesn't mean it's true. Besides, not everyone accepts the whole of the climate sciences. Much of what is accepted are hypothesis not shown to merit the label Theory.

When more studies come out that properly include all variables we know of, I will start listening to what people say using such studies. It would also help if absolute forcing values are assigned to the gasses.

Most people don't know this, but the accepted greenhouse effect for H2O is arounf 75 W/m^2 and 32 W/m^2 for CO2. A more recent study puts the sensitivity of CO2 at 0.43 W/m^2 per doubling and solar something like 0.2 W/m^2 per 0.1%.

What we need are studies we can all agree on.

 

We need to stop with this binary thinking of saying AGW means man is causing the problem AGW exists to some degree, and it's now much is at debate. Saying one agrees with AGW could bean they agree it is only 1% of the effect or less, or it could mean they think it's 99% or more of the effect.

Without staying honest about what words mean, we cannot have a proper debate.

Words mean things!

 

What kind of nonsense is this statement? With that statement, it is obvious you have no idea what a theory is. Look up the definition. It isn't what you wrote. BTW, what they have is a hypothesis unproven. That's a flippin hint for ya!

 

science is not on the rights side.


you chose it that way

 

Nothing in science is ever proven as fact. If you want certainty, go to church. But the evidence that humans are causing the current warming is just as good, if not more so, than the evidence that of natural climate changes in the past. So your definition of "fact" seems a bit flexible.

 

they like to cherry pick science to deny science


its a pretty sad position to find themselves in

 

climate change happens; why play shell games with statism instead of finding better solutions at potentially lower cost.

 

And yet 18 and 1/2 years of no warming. Yet CO2 went up. hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

You seem to be missing the point about our Interglacial period.

 

just curious, would you rather the earth be warmer or colder?

 

i don't mind it the way it is now. however, that doesn't mean we cannot advance global cooling or global warming if necessary.

 

not sure where you're at and what the way it is now means.