Common Figure of Speech?

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  1. DEFinning

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    Your explanation is wholely unnecessary-- I can count the three days: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. At most, all you'd have needed to say, was that any part of the day, was counted as a "day and a night." But, if you had read the OP, the thread's originator seems to discount this possiblity. Personally, I'm not very interested in this "issue." I'd only been trying to help out the thread creator. It is to this writer of the Opening Post, to whom you should redirect your answer.
     
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    You said Thursday which was 4 days, which is why I said something.
     
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    That's how it's been explained in my Catholic church. And it seems obvious to me.
     
  4. DEFinning

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    Did you not read, my post? I, personally, made no claims. I did a Google search, & offered the writer of the OP, what some online source was saying. Please go re-read my post/link, if you are more interested in the math. But yes, that source counted Thur night, only; and Sunday "day," only. Added to the day and night, of Good Friday, and Holy Saturday, this equals 3 "days," and 3 "nights."

    Personally, I find your explanation more likely, however that explanation, as I'd previously told you-- and as you'd know, if you'd read the OP-- had been initially
    discarded, in this thread's premise. I, however, have not researched this, other than grabbing the link, nor given it any real thought, since I don't see it as important enough to warrant my investing of any time or effort.
     
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    Maybe someone new visiting this topic may know of examples.
     
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    And remember, the someone new needs to be someone who thinks the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.
     
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    [QUOTE="DEFinning, . Personally, I'm not very interested in this "issue." I'd only been trying to help out the thread creator. [/QUOTE]

    I'm curious as to how you think you've been doing that since you have yet to provide examples?
     
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    The phrase "...and who thinks that the 'heart of the earth' is referring to the tomb..." in post #31 should be amended to read: "...and who thinks that the 'heart of the earth' is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to when His spirit left His body..."
     
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    Someone new looking in may know of examples.
     
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    That would be an issue for a different topic. Maybe you could start one.
     
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    LOL!!
     
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    I don't understand. I wonder if you might explain.
     
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    Sorry. I'm not sure why specific days of the week are important. It almost sounded like numerology.

    The methods of picking Christmas and other such dates plus the existence of various calendars detracts from the impulse to get that specific.

    I think the Jewish calendar of that time was a combination of lunar and solar that had year lengths of 353, 354, 355, 383, 384, or 385 days.

    There may have been calendars besides the Roman calendar and the Jewish calendar.

    This issue seems to have certain similarities with the problem of what is allegory and what is history. But, I think meaning can get lost in the
    search when the focus is on trying to make the text literal.
     
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    Important only insofar as it is one of the requiments for those to whom this topic is directed, i.e., having the belief that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

    The rest of your comments deal with issues for a different topic.
     
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    Three days and three nights are said about three thousand years.

    After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. (Hosea 6:2)

    The Body of Christ must take three millennia to build. First, two thousand years, the period of the pagans. Then one thousand years - the Kingdom of Israel, the Millennial Kingdom, where the chosen ones from the four winds will be gathered. This Kingdom will begin when the Third Temple described in Ezekiel is built (not to be confused with the Temple Institute project that wants to rebuild the SECOND Temple).
     
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    Your comments deal with issues for a different topic.

    BTW, are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection?
     
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    Of course, Jesus Christ was crucified on the 6th day of the week in the evening. There is no way he could have been in the tomb for 3 nights.
     
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    But the Messiah said He would be in the heart of the earth for three nights. So how do you account for the lack of a third night?

    BTW, Mark 15:25 says He was crucified at the third hour, which is generally thought to be around 9am in the morning and not the evening.
     
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    Yes, they crucified Him at three o’clock, and He died at about 9, becoming the “evening sacrifice”.

    Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
    Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
    But he spake of the temple of his body.

    (John 2:19-21)

    The temple of the body of Christ is built from us, and this temple is built over the course of three thousand years. The temple of the body is not Jesus alone, but all who are in Him. The Body of Christ Temple is not Christianity, it is not a denomination. The temple of the body is our actions that fulfill Matthew 5-6-7.

    Resurrection is our return to life in God. The call to resurrect has been heard for 2 thousand years:

    Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. (Ephesians 5:14)

    To be resurrected means to act in life as Jesus Christ did. When all humanity achieves this, then God will be all in all.

    For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
    Then [cometh] the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    The last enemy [that] shall be destroyed [is] death.
    For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under [him, it is] manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    (1 Corinthians 15:22-28 )

    (1) Jesus Christ is resurrected. (2) 2 thousand years after Jesus, those who belong to Christ are resurrected. They are resurrected as Israel at the Second Coming of Christ. (3) After the Millennial Kingdom there will be a resurrection of all, the final Judgment. These three thousand years are the very three days and three nights that Jesus spoke about.
     
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    Your comments deal with issues for a different topic.
     
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    Agreed. @Aryeh B. this thread is about the sequence and timing of events, not the reason and purpose behind them.
     
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    Actually, it's not. The one issue and only one issue is the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be.
     
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    Delete
     
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    Actually, you have that backwards.
     
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    Jesus died on Wednesday (*the 14th of Nisan), around 3 PM and arose before sunset on Saturday.

    * The 14th of Nisan was the day the "Passover Lamb" was to be slain.

    https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/28366/on-what-day-was-the-passover-lamb-slaughtered
     

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