No, it addresses this topic. I'm saying that there is no figure of speech involved when you get the day of Jesus's crucifix correct. If you count from the 14th of Nissan to just before Saturday sunset, you have 3 days and nights.
Actually, it doesn't. The purpose of this topic is not to discuss the day of the crucifixion - there are other ones which do that. As was stated previously, the only concern of this topic is the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. This topic is directed to anyone who thinks that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week, and who tries to explain the lack of a third night by saying that the Messiah was employing a common figure of speech or colloquialism, and who has examples to support the idea of commonality.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The subject of the thread involves figure of speeches. I laid out why it (figure of speeches) doesn't apply to the 3 days and nights between the crucifixion and resurrection. There are literally 3 days and nights. No figure involved.
But there aren't with a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection. And since you're not a believer in that time frame, the question doesn't apply to you.
Your OP contains some erroneous premises. I'm just correcting your mistakes. There is no figure of speeches involved in the time parameters between the crucifixion and resurrection. There was literally 3 days AND 3 nights - 72 hours.
I haven't seen it. So, let's take a look at the OP: "There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week." So are you saying that I am wrong in saying that there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week? "The Messiah said that He would be in the 'heart of the earth' for 3 days and 3 nights..." Are you saying that the Messiah didn't say that? "...a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. " Are you saying that I'm incorrect with saying that - that it does allow for more than 2 nights? "To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language." Are you saying that I'm incorrect with that comment because there can't be anyone who says that? "And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred." Are you saying that I'm incorrect because I have other issues in mind with regard to this topic?
You're not addressing what I clearly stated -- there is NO figure of speech involved in the timeline between the crucifixion and resurrection. You may have the last word. I'm not interested in responding to any more of your deflections.
Because that is an issue for a different topic. Start one and we can discuss it there. I would like to keep this one on topic.
Overitall, BTW, I'd still like to know to what erroneous premises and mistakes you say I'm making in the OP.
Do you understand that his post is directed to people who do claim that it is a figure of speech? So arguing that it’s not a figure of speech means your argument is not relevant to the discussion.
No-one knows the truth about the crucifixion timing. We don't actually know when Passover was that year because we don't know the year Jesus was born. Passover changes from year to year. In any case much of it is made up. That the man Jesus was crucified is IMO correct. The Romans would not have guarded the tomb. It was Passover and ofter a time of trouble from Jews who were attending from other countries. Herod brought his own troops and they would aid Pilates in time of trouble. When Pilate told the Jews to 'see to it' it gave them permission to use their Temple Guards. Jesus, nor Simon, would have carried the cross through the streets. The crosses were maintained on the mount. The type of wood was not easily obtained. We don't even know the type of cross used. The Romans had 5 types. The one Christians use was only decided upon in the 2nd century CE. Just one other point amongst many. There was no 'crowd' at the time crying for his death. This was the Passover and preparations and festivities would have kept people in. Possibly a few well paid individuals and again the Temple Guard. By the way. Remember Jewish days are from Sunup to Sunup. Although at that Latitude it only varied slightly .
Please explain how it's gaslighting. You made an accusation, and I'm simply asking you to point out the erroneous premises and mistakes you think I made in the OP.
The topic of your thread has become what is the topic of your thread. You don't seem to know it yourself.
The topic, i.e., issue, is the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be. And I'd still like to know to what erroneous premises and mistakes you say I'm making in the OP. Why won't you answer that?
This is an excellent question..... if I remember correctly it was thirty one C. E. when the First Day of Unleavened Bread was on a Thursday....... which would make for a crucifixion on Wednesday morning.... a burial toward late Wednesday afternoon or early evening........ Jesus would be giving a tour of heaven to the deceased thief on the cross for some time... .and then at sunset on that Wednesday... Jesus went to hell.... and was there until His resurrection exactly three days and three nights later on... which would be Saturday... the Jewish Sabbath..... around sunset.............. then he was ALREADY RISEN....when Mary Magdalene came to the grave early Sunday Morning... the first day of the week!!!! They of course rested on Thursday..... then prepared the spices on Friday.... then rested on the weekly Sabbath... .then they went to the tomb Sunday morning....... We Christians tend to be extremely ignorant of pretty much everything about Judaism... we tend to now know that there are seven annual High Sabbaths that can occur on any day of the week........ sometimes they are on the weekly Sabbath.. but often they are not......
And the only question in the OP is: "I wonder if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality."
I've already pointed out why you are incorrect/erroneous on figure of speeches relative to the timing of Jesus being in the grave three days and nights. There the record is literal.
