Congressman Steve Scalise Shot. Fake News to Blame

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I voted for Obama in '08. So... yes.

Because he wouldn't be a bad President, given the chance, and doesn't have a dangerous, or unAmerican agenda. Your propaganda outlets are just telling you that he does. And that is the problem.

 

What's dangerous/unAmerican about Trump's agenda? The infrastructure bill that hasn't been written? Health Care reform that's been stymied, what? He IS your Commander in Chief. You may hate that, you may absolutely loathe that, but it's a fact. I realize I was incredibly harsh and a bit unfair with President Obama.

I considered that my political sin, and to atone for that sin, even if I didn't agree with everything I wanted to give Trump the support that a US Citizen should give our commander in chief. I want to give Trump the treatment I should've given Obama. Trump is a fresh start that we can all take, if we're willing to take it.

 

He used an SKS? They have a 10-round fixed box magazine, and reload with stripper clips. I've heard he fired 50-100 rounds. The aftermarket 30 round magazine modification are a PITA to swap and, in mine anyway, result in many FTL failures. Can't reload quickly, and I've never fired a full 30rd mag without a FTL jam. Something's not adding up here.

 

Just going by the reports. I helped my kid brother buy and SKS back in the 90's when they were $100. He put one of those aftermarket 30 round mag adapter things on the bottom.

The Sanders Assassin used an SKS AND had a 9mm handgun. I don't think the old assassin huffing and puffing from adrenaline going on his mad rage would have been able to load a stripper clip into a standard SKS, or switch out one of those awful aftermarket things. Likely he went for his handgun IF most the shots were from him.
http://wtop.com/alexandria/2017/06/...shooting-was-legally-purchased-assault-rifle/

 

So wait, you didn't like Obama and were unfair to him so now you're going to atone by being nice to someone you voted for and agree with totally. That's bigly of you.

I'm not in the military thank you, Trump is my employee and not a very good one, I want him to shape up or ship out as the saying goes. I'm not willing to take a "fresh start" down the path to authoritarian plutocracy and I don't really understand why anyone not a billionaire, or even most billionaires in fact, would be

 

Just today, I learned that Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) said that he did not really want to blame yesterday's shooting on President Trump--and then proceeded to do precisely that. (There was that weasel word in his statement--"but"--which, as someone else has noted, means approximately, "Please disregard everything that I've said up to this point; here comes the real scoop.")

I will say that it seems a bit odd that Sen. Brown would show revulsion at the "angry rhetoric" of President Trump--which he believes undergirds the Alexandria shooting--when he, himself, described Republicans as mere "lunatics," about a year-and-a-half ago: Sherrod Brown calls Republicans ‘lunatics’; pushes for anti-terror measures - The Lima News

 

Did you look it up?

I am saying what basically this page says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_explanations_of_warfare

Within Marxist theory, modern warfare is described as existing as result of Capitalism. Marxist theory states that all modern wars are caused by competition for resources and markets between great (imperialist) powers, claiming these wars are a natural result of the free market and a class system. The Marxist theory includes the belief that war will only disappear once a Communist world revolution has occurred, which over-throws free markets and class systems.

 

Even Marx recognized the necessity of a vanguard on the road to kumbaya communism. He didn't explain who gets to pick the vanguard once bourgeois institutions like elections are done away with. Nor did he explain how we are to get rid of them. Ever. Hence presidents for life that communist countries "elect."

F communism.

 

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Please name the conservative that last attempted mass murder?

 

If it were the other way around, and a Trump supporter shot up the Congressional Dem ball team, who do you think every liberal with a connection to the internet would blame?
But, when Republicans get shot - because they were Republicans - by a liberal - its different.

Is Bernie directly to blame? Nope. Is the violent rhetoric form the left? Yup.
G'head. Argue otherwise.

 

Brown never met a party line he wasn't willing to tow.

 

I, for one, would in such a case blame the shooter. You know, the guy actually attacking people.

When exactly did personal responsibility fall so out of favour with you, TOG?

Violent rhetoric? What kind of weak-minded fools are americans if they can't hear someone ranting without taking an assault rifle to murder politicians?

I keep seeing this evidence that the US is just a violent hellhole, and you're not exactly fighting that image.

 

This does not answer my question - but you know that.
In fact, you know I am right in that the left, almost to a man, would blame Trump, his rhetoric, his supporters, and the guns.
Tell me I'm wrong. Do it with w/ a straight face. C'mon.

So you DO agree that the left has been full of violent rhetoric as of late. Thank you .
That said, why should this rhetoric not be blamed?

 

That guy in Louisiana, who was actually on this board at one time; one of those bastards who had it in for pretty girls. Oh, wait, Dylan Roof just a year or so ago, 9 in a Church.

Both were conservative as hell, not that it really matters but conservatives always insist on asking.

 

In the US or worldwide?

 

Your first two lines are called straw man, yes? Nobody has yet said Trump even HAS violent rhetoric, though he does.

And what leftist violent rhetoric are you referring to?

And finally, are you suggesting we start arresting people for rhetoric you disapprove of? quashing free speech, what?

 

I said "rhetoric" - you added "violent". You then confirmed he has violent rhetoric.
You ALSO know I am right in that, in the reverse of yesterday, the left, almost to a man, would blame Trump, his rhetoric, his supporters, and the guns.
Tell me I'm wrong. Do it with w/ a straight face. C'mon.
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the right has been full of violent rhetoric since the beginning but it gets ignored by forum right wingers - remember this:


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ce081a-9573-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html

 

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/30/530798801/white-supremacist-arraigned-for-portland-ore-train-murders

 

You are kidding, right?

 

Mental instability in the gunman is to blame. I probably see much of the same news the gunman viewed yet I have no desire to harm republicans or anyone else.

 

Hey look, another one completely taken in by the propaganda machine.

 

I can't speak for the other leftists on this board but I wouldn't, though you've made up your mind I would, so what do I know of me?

Now can you answer my question? What violent rhetoric from the left? What's equivalent to Trump's urging his followers to punch people in the face or to his saying he'd defend anybody who did at one point?

 

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That "guy in Louisiana" and Dylan Roof are not nor ever were conservatives.