Congressman Steve Scalise Shot. Fake News to Blame

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  1. Tijuana

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    I think they have stopped trying all that, and now they just resort to flat lies they know are untrue.
     
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    does the left supports this?
     
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    Hey, you don't even know me. I'm a chill guy. Heck, if we'd just talk things over down the pub over a few pints, we'd probably get on like a house on fire. No need to demonize people you don't know.
     
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    If all it took for him to start shooting at politicians was a few news items, you don't think there just might be something else involved?
     
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    Well the field of terrorists is deep. Remember there's #BLM, #OWS, and now #Antifa. If the pay is good enough and the individual's ideology deep enough you've got the makings. It's the same for grooming Islamist terrorists. IMO, the Progressive Marxists are looking for the ideal Lee Harvey Oswald to groom, train, fund and set loose. This won't be over soon the Progressive Left has been incensed by their loss of 2016.
     
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    Apparently....
     
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    Let's not talk about hypotheticals because we don't know. We do know that he was driven by fake news in this case. He believed the fake news about how Trump is a traitor and colluded with Russia

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    Looks like he believed the fake news about Trump being a traitor. What else are you supposed to do if you believe that the leader of the current government is a traitor who colluded with the enemy? He decided to take "justice" into his own hands and play hid part in the "resistance"

    How else is the resistance supposed to deal with a traitor when the traitor has all the power, the numerous impeachment attempts failed, and when all the while, the future of our country is at stake? Especially when treason is punishable by death?

    Even a sane person could be lead to commit such actions.
     
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    sounds more like you're making fake news.
     
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    Yes. He endorsed Trump, supports Trump's travel ban and supports Trump on ObamaCare.
     
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    He essentially quoted CNN, MSNBC, WaPo and the NYT.
     
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    He also did what Obama's Attorney General told people to do.

    Months ago I posted often the actions of the MSM were going to increasingly lead to murders - and it has over and over and over and over. This is just the next time. There will be more and it may start going both ways.
     
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    You may not realize it but, that is exactly what is so scary about this shooter today. His Facebook feed isn't full of wild things. His posts are pretty much in line with any of the Liberals I know. People who knew him are not saying he was a nut job really. So, from the perspective of the right, this could be any of you tomorrow.

    I don't believe in blaming 3rd parties for the actions of others. However, it's hard to not see that in recent weeks and months, Trump has been murdered in effigy, beheaded in effigy, people have talked about burning down the White House, impeaching him of crimes with no evidence, accusing him of treason, claiming his presidency was somehow stolen, etc.

    In addition, a GOP healthcare plan, put forth in good faith as a solution to the problems with Obamacare, and the pre-existing health care system, has been painted as them intending to harm people. At some point, the steady drum beat of accusations of villainy are going to be acted on by troubled persons. This really is VERY dangerous, to have the media saying these things, with no evidence.

    We have seen free speech being shut down on college campuses, and at other public speaking events. We have a situation where on MOST college campuses, a MAGA hat will get you beaten up, or worse. There have been violent riots, with people showing up with weapons from the start. And now this. It's pretty hard to not draw a trend line of ever increasing violence from the left. At what point do some of you take responsibility, and speak out against this outrageous nonsense? Having a different opinion does not equate to Hitler. When literally NOBODY in the media speaks out against this, to a person in a media bubble, this is PATRIOTISM to commit violence.
     
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    The defining moment was when V.P. candidate Senator Tim Kaine's son masked and in a masked group attacked a group of Republicans with fireworks and pepper spray - those Republicans believing masked terrorists were shooting at them, setting off bombs and spraying them with acid - and NOT ONE Democrat had the slightest criticism. Silence in that instance equated to endorsement.
     
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    Nobody is blaming Bernie Einstein. You are chasing after someones strawman, created to avoid addressing the actual topic of discussion. I certainly wont accuse you of being a genius if you are going to be so easily distracted into irrelevance. The lefts rhetoric is just as likely to incite a Hillary supporter to violence.
     
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    How is this different from freedom of speech?
    (Not that it is acceptable for people to suffer violence, ever)
     
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    Yes, there have been many silent endorsements. Again, I'm not going to connect the dots of this nut job all the way to a 3rd party. But, this is bordering on inciting violence in many cases.
     
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    Because there's a difference between free speech and incitement with disinformation
     
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    Incitement to violence?
     
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    Yes

    How else is the resistance supposed to deal with a traitor when the traitor has all the power, the numerous impeachment attempts failed, and when all the while, the future of our country is at stake? Especially when treason is punishable by death?

    Even a sane person could be lead to commit such actions.
     
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    Criticism of speech isn't an infringement upon freedom of speech.
     
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    was surprised that nothing happened to Hillary Clinton after the allegation of the paedophilia ring being run out of the pizza shop. These mad sorts of accusations can have deadly results.
     
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    Trump wasn't even a target. I just knew someone would end up blaming this on Trump, as I write above.
     
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    Odds that Rosie O'donnell tweets this psycho is "a brave patriot"?
     
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    Most revolutionaries have been liberals compare to the days standard. Conservatives are not known for being activists.
     
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    He's a target all the time. The only reason why he didn't try to kill Trump was because he couldn't get close enough with a weapon. So he settled for his party instead.

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    It's obvious that his actions were driven by fake news
     
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