Conservatives: What did Hitler get wrong?

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  1. Kode

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    That is pure right wing spin. Care to debate this? Was Mussolini a right wing fascist? Hitler copied him.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't create this thread to accuse you of being a racist. That much I assumed you accepted. If I spent 30 minutes looking through your posts, I'm sure I could find 10+ instances in which you have espoused your white superiority views. I'll do it if you absolutely insist. I frankly am shocked that you even deny it.

    You think blacks are inherently more violent than whites, yes? It's apparently in their warrior genes. And I know I've also seen you post studies showing that whites tend to have a higher IQ than blacks. Is that correct? Please let me know what you're denying today. And you have also posted in the past that "brownification" as I believe you called it has proven not to be the best thing for the US. Is that correct? So you have said all of these things (please correct me if I'm wrong), yet you apparently don't think whites are superior to non-whites? That's cognitive dissonance. Or more likely, you're comfortable with having all of the same views as someone who thinks whites are superior to blacks, but you don't like the stigma that goes along with that.
     
  3. Kode

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    Who is the original authority on socialism in today's parlance? Marx?
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's opinion.

    Here's a fact: Hitler had lefists and communists executed. How do you reconcile that with your belief that Hitler was a leftist?
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You never said this.
    Hitler executed communists and leftists. You continue to ignore this specific example. All you have is that Nazisim had socialism in its name because it believed in putting country before the individual--a deeply conservative view (i.e., nationalism).
     
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    Why would the op compare the conservatives to Hitler when the Democratic Party is following all of his principles? Just look at what Bernie Sanders ran on, pure socialism, the state pays for everything and does all they can to make sure that everyone is rewarded the same for “time spent” at work! No need to do a good job, you attended that is all that is necessary.

    The State takes over all education and indoctrinates the next generation on their socialist viewpoints.

    And this crazy liberal crap about white superiority, that is what the dems are trying to create. They force young inner city blacks into failing schools to keep them down, keep them in poverty, because those who are dependent on the government will vote democrat.

    They even got the NAACP to come out against charter schools, what was the payoff for that?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Executing a few people doesn't make him right wing, look at Stalin, there's a lefty who could execute some people, or is he a right winger now too?
     
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    Yet you called me out twice in the thread, even though I wasn't even participating. How creepy.

    I've never once claimed "whites are superior to non-whites" as you falsely claimed. You won't find any examples of me making that statement. That's what happens when you make stuff up and get called on it. You lose. Hasn't been the first time, won't be the last.

    Blacks produce a higher amount of monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) enzymes than do whites, and the "warrior gene" is a variation in X chromosome that creates more of these enzymes. It's a scientific fact, and I've substantiated it many times over the years I've been here. You've never been able to refute the scientific sources I've posted on the subject, and you prefer, like with almost every topic you get involved in, to respond with your typical shtick of imitating (poorly) Stephen Colbert and simply mocking it, even though it's scientific. I'll let the members of the board determine how persuasive that strategy is.

    And I've never cited the warrior gene to be the sole reason for why blacks exhibit higher levels of violence than other groups, like you are attempting to portray, here. I've gone on record numerous times with my theory that culture is the primary reason for the high levels of violence in their community.

    Which is an undeniable fact looking at the history of IQ testing. Blacks have a lower IQ than whites. It's also undeniable that Asians have a higher IQ than whites.

    Just the false claims you've made about me in this thread.

    I've never claimed "whites are superior to non-whites" as you falsely claimed. I've always maintained each race has strengths and weaknesses. What you're confused about is my opposition to multiculturalism and "diversity".
     
  9. 3link

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    This is incredibly disingenuous. I'm not saying he's conservative/right because he executed people generally. I'm saying the fact that he executed leftists demonstrates that he was not in fact a leftist, which tends to suggest he was in fact a conservative.
     
  10. Kode

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    <Mod Edit> Hitler was not left and was not a socialist.

    You all complain regularly that democrats are horrible and that democrats lie to mislead. Yet you know Hitler was most horrible yet you think he most certainly told the truth about being "socialist"??? <Rule 2>
     
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    We already know that Nazi power grew from its staunch opposition to communism within Germany, doesn't make it right wing, but lefties don't like to portray their infighting for all to see, so they manufactured the concept that National Socialists were actually 'right wing' to avoid that particular embarrassment...
     
  12. Kode

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    Deflection! Off topic! Whenever the right is cornered they can be trusted to try to change the subject hoping for an escape hatch.
     
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    Doesn't this belong in a history section or something?

    Not really relevant to anything happening at all today.
     
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    You realize it was a lefty that brought up the executions in the first place, talk about deflection and change of subject to protect your intellectually bankrupt ideas...
     
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    Huh? <Mod Edit> "We" know that Hitler was a right wing extremist.

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    Execution BY HITLER. The subject is Hitler and his right wing extremism.
     
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    Are you claiming Nazi power didn't grow from its opposition to communism? <Rule 2>
     
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    Forum software malfunction.
     
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    Yes! <Reply to Deleted>
     
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    People asked for names.
    I'm sure Stalin never said "I'm a power hungry murdering (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)," so I guess he wasn't.
    <Rule 3> I have never pretended that you have said the exact words: "Whites are superior to non-whites." It is entirely possible you have never said those precise words. But that's really a weak strawman, because you consistently cite statistics or scientific studies on which you base absurd conclusions that whites are smarter or less prone to violence than blacks. You just seem to be of the mistaken opinion that this is not the same as thinking whites are superior to non-whites.

    I'm not here to debate whether the studies showing blacks are more prone to violence are true or not. That's a topic for a different thread. I'm sure you can produce plenty of articles from Brietbart and other "reputable" sources showing that blacks are indeed violent monkeys. The fact of the matter is that you believe those studies are true and that blacks are inherently more violent than whites. That much is not disputed here. The fact that you believe those things means that you think whites are superior to blacks--at least in that respect.

    I'm not saying that you say it is the sole reason. I'm saying that you cite that as a reason that Blacks have a higher propensity to crime than whites. That in of itself is believing that whites are superior to blacks. At least in that respect.

    Yes. I've seen that. And I even agree with culture is a problem. But I think you've stated before that either white culture is not mix well with black culture. Did you also say that black culture is inferior to white culture?


    Do you conclude from the fact that blacks score lower than whites on the IQ test that blacks tend to be less intelligent than whites? And that asians are more intelligent than whites?

    Funny how all of the blacks weaknesses seem to favor excluding them from white society.

    Your opposition to multiculturalism and diversity is a facade. It's how you get around hating blacks without having to call yourself a white supremacist.
     
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    That's a null point, even if you're right about "the majority" of conservatives believing in white supremacy.

    There is a major and substantial difference between being racist and actually proceeding to round people up in camps and murder them in masse.
     
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    Thank you for this post. This is the first answer on point.

    So Conservatives agree with Hitler insofar that whites are superior to non-whites. But they disagree that we should round them all up and murder them. That is where the line is drawn between modern conservatism and Nazism.
     
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    So you threw some out and made up arguments for them?

    Bad comparison. You're making claims that I am "open" about "whites being superior to non-whites", yet you can't find a statement that supports that.

    Why do you conflate inconvenient facts about blacks into a claim that "whites are superior to non-whites"? There's a really poor leap in logic you are making here, I'm just trying to flesh it out.

    Strawman.

    So because I can produce statistics that show blacks commit significantly more crime than whites, that means "whites are superior to non-whites"?

    It could be, sure. There's certainly evidence to support that conclusion.

    So even suggesting whites are better than blacks at something means that I am claiming "whites are superior to non-whites"?

    In some ways, yes. I'm sure to others it is superior to white culture in some ways. I believe in Western civilization, white culture is better, since white culture is what created the West.

    Yes, which should also be true to anyone who believes that IQ measures intelligence levels.

    Nope, my opposition to multiculturalism and diversity comes from the fact that these things are destructive towards the preservation of unique cultures, genetic traits, languages, traditions, and histories of the people involved. Me pointing out the failures of multiculturalism and diversity (such as the disproportionately high black-on-white crime rates) is simply me supporting my argument.

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    That's like saying Hitler would have been fine were it not for the camps
     
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    Two other major differences: Conservatives oppose socialism, and support Israel.
     
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    I said "even if" you are right. I personally do not believe you are.

    You're welcome.
     

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