Corona Virus Update

I'm still trying to work out why 3,000 deaths is so monumental that it starts two wars, ushers in the Patriot act and leads to a clamour for a Muslim travel ban but 3,000 deaths a day is ''just the flu bro'', no need to wear masks or disturb Thanksgiving celebrations.
3.2 million deaths would be completely horrendous. 400,000 deaths is already bad enough. I've not forgotten what ex-President Tweet said about limiting it to under 200k would be a successful outcome to him.

 

3.2 million deaths is just fine?

 

3.2 million people wouldn't or won't die. 99% of the population is at minimal to no risk. The 1% which are at risk are at very small small risk. 99% of them will be just fine.

Too many people have succumbed to the fear tactics. It's actually sad to see how quickly and efficiently government manipulated people into allowing their God given rights to be completely ignored.

 

Only in a completely selfish world where you only consider risk to yourself and not whether you kill other people.
Its like saying there should be no speed limits because the odds of me being killed in my Humvee are less than 1%.

 

That's ridiculous. There will always be risks in life. There's always going to be an infectious virus of some type which poses a risk of one degree or another to various groups of people. You take precautions with those who are at the most risk, not the entire population.

We can't continue to go through life in fear.

It's obvious that the actions mandated or ordered by government made this situation much worse than it should have been.


Your speed limit analogy is out of place here.

 

So if 400,000 deaths are fine, where would you draw the line and accept a few losses of freedoms for the greater good?

 

Its not an issue of how many deaths are fine. There are risks in life. These risks will always be a part of the human condition. These risks aren't a reason to place draconian restrictions upon the entire population. These risks aren't a justification to shut down the economy of an entire nation. These risks are not a reason to roiled up fear and panic in the the country.

Life has to go on. The people who are at the least level of risk need to continue life as normal. Hundreds of millions of people are at no more risk than that of catching a common cold, which is also a corona virus.

 

When was the last year that more than 400k people in the US died from catching a cold?

 

Irrelevant. When was the last time the nation essentially came to a halt because of a virus? Hint.....never. Not even during the Spanish flu pandemic

 

Why are so many people willing to accept these tyranical and oppressive measures imposed by government? Are they living in that much fear?

 

The Spanish Flu happened during a world war. If everyone did come to a halt the flu would not have spread so widely as hardly anyone travelled in those days. It was the US military that spread the flu worldwide

 

You think the Spanish Flu had no major effect on the economy?
How about the Black Death?
Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it.
The economies which have done best have been the ones responsible for the best mitigation and best reduced the spread.

 

We didn't shut down the country durin the Spanish flu. That's the pont. How did that get past you?

The Black Death? Seriously? Let's go back to the Middle Ages 1000's of years before the America was created. OK?

 

So what if it happened during a world war?

All you can do is shake your head.

 

Ridiculous!

There was an enormous negative effect from the flu pandemic back then!

Read a little history before claiming these ridiculous claims, particularly because they are fairly stories from the business "feel-good stories".

Economic Effects of the
1918 Influenza Pandemic
Implications for a Modern-day Pandemic
November 2007
Thomas A. Garrett
Assistant Vice President and Economist

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2MngRfW6pDF7RHouLfyih6

 

WE DIDNT SHUT DOWN THE COUNTRY DURING THE SPANISH FLU.... I didn't say it didn't have a negative effect.

How can you have a discussion with people who refuse to follow the discission?
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You obviously missed the point.
Global pandemics ruin the economy whether you shut down or not.
The difference is in how quickly you can get back to normal and how many lives are lost in the meantime.
Your knowledge of contagious diseases and economics is matched only by your knowledge of dates and maths.

 

So what? Explain how any country could go into a halt when involved in a world war.

 

No, you missed the point. I never said that the Spanish flue did not have a huge negative effect. I said that the country wasn't shut down because of it. If you had a grasp of history you'd see that it was worse in those places which tried to shut down.

You are completely clueless and have no ability to follow a discussion.

I’m done. You can’t even follow a.discussion.

 

How we can we have a discussion with people who make things up with the slightest reading of history?

In term in the 1918 pandemic, the terms were called "quarantines", and were usually operated by state and city authorities. Quarantines were quarantines were fairly common, although they were more likely applied to the poor, working class and minority residents, and had immediate and severe force of law, including death. (The wealthy rarely had any punitive messages, btw.)

From the 2007 Fed report again:

 

I give up.

 

I’m afraid that we have lost be country as it was founded. I’d say that we no longer deserve the freedoms the founders provided.

We now have too many people who are willing sacrifice freedom over a sliver of temporary security. We were warned about that by the founders, but the warning fell on deaf ears.

 

Another point worth mentioning is that in 1919 there was no real possibility of a vaccine or a cure down the line. All they had was containment.
We have much better healthcare and research facilities, making avoidance a worthwhile strategy while we wait for a vaccine or better treatment.
Anyone not doing everything they can to reduce the chance of catching and spreading the virus is gambling with their life and the lives of others and prolonging the lockdowns.

 

It is a shame that so many Americans no longer place a premium on individual liberty. When ai was growing up, that was considered the greatest aspect of being an American.

it’s over now.

 

Which further demonstrates how current events are irrational. We have tremendously greater ability today to effectively treat people who become infected.