Could Boris Johnson be the UK's last prime minister?

In a country that still (believe it or not) hasn't recovered from a devastating famine caused by the English establishment in the mid 19th century, they hear that the new British Home Secretary has previously suggested Britain uses power over food exports to Ireland as one of the weapons to starve the Irish into submission over brexit.

 

If the Micks are still making a fuss about that low carb diet they went on nearly 200 years ago then they aren't worth bothering with. That said, according to Varadkar he had a warm and constructive chat with Johnson, which suggests that the Irish are prepared to do some serious brown nosing to stave off the 100,000 job loses expected from a no deal Brexit.

 

Those 100,000 job losses will occur in NI, not SI. The fear of Northern Ireland is that companies will move to SI and have the best of both worlds. A similar situation is feared in northern England if Scotland breaks away

 

Not according to the Irish Times....

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...cost-ireland-more-than-100-000-jobs-1.3972878

 

Yeah, it's 40,000 in NI and 100,000 in the South.

 

Polls suggest NI will vote for a United Ireland if there is a No Deal. That will please the English Nat's but not the DUP. But....how will the English Nats and their No Deal manage if US politicians refuse a trade deal with us due to what is happening in Ireland.

 

It was a no carb diet

 

Nor does it have anything to do with the EU.

Every nation has it's ups and downs, and joining the EU in the 90's (not the common trade agreement) has resulted in

1. Falling GDP since joining the EU
2. Skyrocketing housing costs

As I already pointed out.

There is no evidence that joining the EU in the 90's did the UK any favors.

 

That keeps declining after joining the EU.

 

Money is not the only driver of it all.
There are opportunities for EU citizens to move within the EU, and lots of collaborative ventures, particularly in technology, security and academia.
Lots of favours there.

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure money drives the GDP.

Apparently at the expense of the UK, judging by housing costs.

 

This has nothing to do with what I said and replied to. You made two claims [putting the British Empire in the same context with the "sick man of Europe", built a global powerhouse while the rest in Europe were picking their noses], both false.

 

Exactly. The SNP wants independence anyway, so this gives them another shot--and I bet this time they'll win.

 

Bingo. I live in Canada part of the year and I have to leap over the border with a Nexus Pass, but even with the "trusted traveler" program the border is a nuisance.

 

Tongue-in-cheek? Ireland rejoin the UK? Not a chance. Besides, Ireland has done quite well as a member of the EU. Ireland has a higher per capita GDP ($78,785) than the US ($62,606) or the UK ($45,705). Why take on the UK boat anchor?

 

I wouldn't bet against it.

 

Why would Ireland with a per capita GDP 72% higher than the UK want to reunite with the Brits?

 

Hold their own referendum and declare independence.

 

Well, let's see. Hopefully Johnson will be prevented from his death-wish no-deal Brexit and we can leave in an orderly way (or remain may still be an option).

 

Do you have any links as to how that would work? Not that I'm saying it can't.
The Catalans did exactly that and the leaders ended up in jail, or threatened with it, I don't recall how it ended. It didn't work, anyway.
A unilateral Scottish referendum would be illegal, I think, so I wonder what the UK government would do?

 

I think you missed my point. Many of the arguments against the UK leaving the EU would apply to Scotland leaving the UK too. The pro-EU and pro-Independence position just feels a little contradictory to me.

 

The UK did not join the EU in the1990s

 

Sure it did, since the EU didn't exist until 1993.

 

Scotland believes that England/Westminster takes a great deal more of democracy out of the picture for Scotland than the EU does. Also being Independent but having the same trade links will make things easier. People in Scotland enjoy being able to work in Europe. A lot of what Scotland exports is food that does not want to take too long to get to where it is going.

 

Diablo, be very sure, if the people of Scotland decide they want Independence then they will go for Independence. I have told you two ways but you did not understand so it is difficult. You had better not be thinking of something like this.

The boundary between Nationalism and Revolutionary Nationalism

For anyone else how Scotland would go for Independence when the people want it.

Changes have been made to some laws in Scotland which it is believed will make it more likely the Supreme Court will come out on our side should we demand another Article 30.
Doing what Catalan did has been suggested but given that the No's tend to stay away and hence anyone who doesn't vote is seen as a no, that is not popular.
I have seen the suggestion that the SNP should tell people that a vote for them for Westminster is in reality a vote for Independence. Scotland vote in a majoirty of SNP and Scotland is Independent. That is how things were prior to Scotland getting it's own Parliament.

Lastly the same but on a vote to the Scottish Parliament which seems to be more popular than doing it on Westminster..

When there is a majority wanting Independence we will take it and it has been very near 50% for several months now. It would be expected that number would grow if we were planning a vote.