Nope, people just need an IQ over 25 to know a fetus isn't a baby.... YOUR heart must be really hard after TWO abortions....
How could you not believe in adoption? What if the mother decides after birth she doesn't want a child, what should we do with that child? What if the childs parents die? Supporting the adoption process helps more than just those who can't bring themselves to abort. It's my understaning that in the USA no employer is obligated to provide paid parental leave, not even one week, and that the government does not supply any either. This can often "force" a woman into abortion. - - - Updated - - - Really? So there aren't thousands of unborn children killed in the USA every year? And the majority of those aren't killed for reasons of "choice"?
Did you miss the part where I said it's not my business what other women do? . I am not in the USA. What does this have to do with what pro-choice means? Pro-choicers support the woman's CHOICE. We do not advocate for any woman to abort, we leave the choice to her.
I have never advocated for making abortion illegal. I advocate for restricting it and giving women other options. Abortion rate is based on education, contraception use and post natal support systems. Increasing availability of abortion will not reduce the abortion rate, it will do the opposite.
Yes, and because elective abortion is legal the patriarchy is in no rush to provide post natal support systems.
If that small human who waves and kicks and sucks his thumb, listens to music, follows light and feels pain is post-birth, it's a person.
Why, because I think women should embrace what makes them uniquely women and society should help her do that? I feel like im the only person who loves women here. You seem to want women to be just like men. I think its ironic that you claim to support women, but also support a system that makes women feel like her natural function is a burden.
No. It doesnt need any changing. Either a being that can move, feel and respond is a person or it isnt. Location shouldn't determine if a person is a person. A baby in Africa is the same as a baby in America. And a baby in the womb is the same as a baby in the crib.
Legally, it is a person at birth. And there is a good deal more difference than "location;" that has been pointed out to you. Read and learn.
So naturally you support my "choice" to lobby for the rights of the unborn, for the protection of women who are manipulated into abortion by a system that doesn't welcome parenthood, and for the promotion of a humane society who protects the weak and in need?
People who believe that believe the earth is flat and fire is magic....and science scares the bejaysus out of them...
WTF???? Is that an AUSSIE flag I see flying in the corner? AUSTRALIA does not "welcome parenthood"? The country that INVENTED the "baby bonus"! The country that has not just maternity leave but parental leave? The country that has child care rebates? What part of that is "not welcoming parenthood"?
I specifically remember many folks who are aghast at abortion being among those who wanted to send all those "dirty Mexican children" back to where they came from when they were coming(and still come) over the border last year. A lot of those folks don't care about children(beyond the ones in their family that is), they only care about American children, and even then only when it's free to care about them. Use their tax dollars for it and boy oh boy they just get all frothy don't they. The "hardness of heart" thing comes from having to be objective about abortion. And sometimes you have to because the pro-lifers like to try using science occasionally and you have to be able to talk about science objectively, not subjectively. You have to be able to remind them where the line is between what science is telling us and what we're making up ourselves. You have to be able to point out the hypocrisy in being pro-life but still have no problem with the other 99.99% of life on Earth being killed without lawful protections, sometimes out of necessity, quite often for food or money, and sometimes just for pure sport.
So glad you and Zeffy are here to show that not all Australians are whackjob, drug crazed, misogynists....
biological father would get visitation, the father never hurt the child... so the courts would have to allow it, especially if the rapist is not found guilty as long as one considers the father a rapist, it will be the rapist's baby
