Legally. Do you not have the power to think outside what the law tells you? Forget the law what do YOU think? Is a baby in the womb the same as a baby in the crib?
Anything is better than nothing (like in the ACT) whether people do it or not, legalising abortion for reasons of choice in the last trimester diminishes our humanity. No one should be able to look at a 30-40 week fetus and say "well if the mum wants to kill it, so be it". We are supposed to be creating a society where we care for the weak and in need, especially our own children. That's what humanity is all about. We see a 40 week fetus as unimportant what stops us from seeing a newborn as unimportant? Personally i like most of the EU abortion restrictions --iceland, finland, switzerland, Germany -- they protect the woman's health and societal needs whilst still respecting the humanity of the unborn.
For any reason in the first trimester (before the embryo turns into a fetus and develops its uniquely human characterstics) and any time after that when the threat to the mothers life would be greater if she kept the pregnancy than if she aborted, or if the fetus has significant and untreatable impairment.
Why not? If the woman chooses not to give birth to a live baby and her doctors agree to terminate, then what is it to do with you? Very late term abortions are horrendous for everyone concerned. The last thing the woman needs at such a time is someone who knows nothing about the situation getting involved. The fact it has been born and is a person. How many times do you need to be told this? So what exactly is your problem?
My problem is that whether it happens or not the pro choice movement want it legal to kill a child just before birth. That means a child moments before birth has no value. This is creating a generation of callous disregard for human life.
It's already legal to abort a foetus very near birth. The restrictions are meaningless , because they only ever happen in the direst of circumstances.
So according to you the Canadian "child", moments before birth has no value to Canadian people? Human life only has as much value as another places upon it and that is true for all people including you.
Having a support channel for them that does not include killing an innocent human. BTW pregnancies being devastating is your opinion. No real facts to state that pregnancies are devastating to women
what did that baby/fetus/human have to do with the rape? Why does he/she have to die because the woman says so? There is no compassion in killing an innocent human. No law forces anyone to do anything. Choice still exists. Consequences result from every decision, legal, or not. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I find it hard to believe that allowing women to choose killing unborn humans shows you understand them, or care about them even one little bit
Would I want the police, or FBI to stop her from traveling to another country when she has committed no crime? No. If she commits a crime would I want her charged? Yes. Is having an abortion in a country where it is legal committing a crime? No. Different countries have different laws and you have to obey that countries laws. Meaning if the USA banned abortions, then no abortions in the USA, however you can go to Canada and have one, if you really want to have a legal abortion. Also just because you can do it in other countries does that mean we should just make it legal here?
Actually there are already laws on the books that make it illegal for citizens to do certain acts in another country. As far as the U.S. Constitution goes, this could be covered under the Extradition clause, since the State in which the woman resided while pregnant would still have jurisdiction over the fetus. In Virginia, for example, the State has a law on their books (currently rendered unenforceable by the courts) that makes it a crime for a woman to flee the State with an unborn child, with intent of aborting said child.
most women would not have their rapists baby, you may be the exception, but most would not Plan B should be a part of every Rape kit imo .
Meaning you would force women to risk their health and lives, and permanently damage their bodies in an unwanted pregnancy. Forcing pregnancy treats women like animals or objects without regard to their feelings. Where does the "understanding and compassion" come into play? I didn't say all pregnancies were devastating; I said unwanted pregnancies are devastating, and that is a fact.
Canadian law, yes. Thankfully no doctors there perform elective abortions after 20 weeks (that are recorded). So at least the doctors must have some respect for life. But still if some sick money hungry doctor did perform a late term elective abortion the law could do nothing about it. That childs life would be valueless.
Taking away their choice means you don't care about women. You cannot care about anyone while taking away their rights so why don't you be honest, quit pretending you care about anyone but yourself and your antiquated sexist ideas? The "people" in here who are so against women having more rights than animals have the hardest, most despicable, hearts....I wonder how they got that way......maybe they had terrible lives ( ) and now just have to hate to feel better....
Nothing shows a harder, less compassionate heart than someone who has two abortions but wants to deny other women that right.....
Nobody forces pregnancy, or treats women like animals, or objects, that is all hyperbole and you know it. I never said any side was about compassion, or understanding. Trying to say one side understands women more, or cares about women more then the other is silly and misleading. Whether you are pro-life, or pro-choice has zero to do with how you feel about women. Nope no fact in unwanted pregnancies being devastating. unwanted pregnancies have the same effects on the body and mind as wanted ones and the unborn develops exactly the same way. Only difference between wanted and unwanted is one is wanted - - - Updated - - - There's Fox chiming in with his irrelevant I hate you because you don;t agree with me BS. No facts in this response, so no need to dwell on this.
There's steve chiming in with his funny circular off the mark comments. Here's my post he quoted: """"""Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post Taking away their choice means you don't care about women. You cannot care about anyone while taking away their rights so why don't you be honest, quit pretending you care about anyone but yourself and your antiquated sexist ideas? The "people" in here who are so against women having more rights than animals have the hardest, most despicable, hearts....I wonder how they got that way......maybe they had terrible lives ( ) and now just have to hate to feel better...."""" No where in there would a person who can comprehend English find " irrelevant I hate you because you don;t agree with me BS"" Disagreeing with someone has nothing to do with the issue.....trying to take away someone's rights, whether you feel you hate them or not, has the same effect as hating them. It sure looks like hate when you try to oppress half the population. It looks like hate when you want to enslave half the population. It looks like hate when you want laws controlling ONLY half the population. It looks like hate when you want women to suffer and die to have a kid. It mostly looks like hate when , because of a person's flimsy pseudo morals and bigoted self-righteousness , they want to impose their whackjob feelings onto others instead of just taking care of their own life....
Yes, abortion bans force women to continue a pregnancy and give birth against their will. How is taking away women's rights to control what happens to their bodies not dehumanizing them? I believe you said pro-choice was not about understanding or compassion of women. Wrong, it has everything to do with how you feel about women. Being pro-life means you are willing to take human rights away from the woman, a fully established person, and give them to a developing embryo. Which is more important to you? Wrong, all pregnancies affect women differently both physically and mentally, whether wanted or unwanted.
Late term abortions are seldom wanted, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be available for the few women that need them.
In fact it is not Canadian law, there is no law concerning abortion in Canada .. zero, nil, nothing. So you are now saying that Canadian doctors are more moral and ethical than US doctors, after all there are no recorded late-term elective abortions in Canada are there, and yet you assume that US doctors would be different and their would be, furthermore you are also implying that there would be some "sick money hungry doctor " in the US when there has not been one of those in Canada since the removal of all abortion restrictions in 1988 - 27 years ago. It seems to me you hold American doctors in a far lower esteem than Canadian ones. You are attempting to create a slippery slope fallacy, that just because something can be done it will be done.
