Dashcam video appears to show Fort Worth cop shooting man in the back

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why do you find it necessary to use an inflammatory term such as "execute" to make your point?
     
  2. wgabrie

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    The police officer didn't even have his flashlight on yet, he just arrived at the scene. In a manner of two seconds he went from driving the police car to shooting the victim.

    That's why dash cams are important it shows what really happened.
     
  3. cd8ed

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    Indeed, failure to obey a lawful order followed by an attempt to flee - SCOTUS has ruled that officers may legally discharge their service weapon.

    What is so difficult to understand about this? If this future astronaut had belonged to any other ethnic group this would be a non-issue.
     
  4. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's the cover story. I prefer my version where the cop got the crap scared out of him by a boogie monster and then he opened fire. The monster just happened to be a black man.
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looking at the crime disparity committed by young black men I can understand the officers confusion.
     
  6. QLB

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    You're so right. By % he would be much safer if the guy was dressed up as Klansman.
     
  7. superbadbrutha

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    So its ok to just jump out of your car and open fire if you think the suspect is a young black man because he probably committed a crime anyway.

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    He probably would have known who that was.
     
  8. QLB

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    But he still would have been safer. Hell, most of your people in Chicago would be safer in a Klan meeting than in your own neighborhoods. Just saying.
     
  9. superbadbrutha

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    Really, I have been in my neighborhood for 20yrs and I haven't seen one person getting shot.
     
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    You haven't SEEN anyone shot. It that supposed to be surprising. BTW the Klan hasn't killed a Black Man in well over 20 years.
     
  11. superbadbrutha

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    You made the claim that I would be safer with the Klan than I would in my own neighborhood. You mean that was actually in a Klan uniform.
     
  12. QLB

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    If you stop and think that risk with the Klan is virtually zero and the fact that you're a Black male it makes the former being safer a mathematical certainty.
     
  13. cd8ed

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    I did not say that - I was responding to a smart ass comment in kind.
    Every police shooting, regardless of their skin hue, should be thoroughly investigated and in instances of excessive force or manslaughter the officer should be tried accordingly.

    Unfortunately, the individual decided it was in his best interest to turn and run and suffered the consequences of such.
     
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    So it is ok to shoot a suspect in the back who is no threat to an officer. I guess that explains why the officer in N Charleston had a hung jury.
     
  15. Mr_Truth

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    Gee, I'm disappointed at your reply since you are the great conservative. As one of that ilk you should be saying that he has a right to be secure in his own person (as per the Constitution), is free to roam or to associate as he pleases, and has the right to keep and bear weapons (2d Amendment), and to utilize it as he wishes in order to keep the government off his back.


    If you and other forum conservatives are as principled as you claim to be, you would say he should have been armed, taken aim at the cops or whatever they were, and fired away in order to keep his freedom from government obstruction of his freedom.


    Where are the forum NRA members to speak out on the victim's behalf?

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    ... but the cops sure have and it has cost taxpayers MILLIONS in compensation to the victims's families.
     
  16. cd8ed

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    SCOUTS has ruled it is lawful for an officer to use deadly force to subdue a fleeing suspect.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
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    Can you post that ruling. Playing stupid games shouldn't end in murder.
     
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    I fully support you going out and pointing a weapon at police.

    Knock yourself out.
     
  19. Mr_Truth

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    How about the victim in that video and in the many other videos where we have seen cops committing a holocaust upon innocent blacks?
     
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    He's free to make his own decisions not to listen to the police and point weapons at them too.
     
  21. Mr_Truth

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    But wouldn't it have been better if he'd had a fully loaded machine gun in order to preserve his right of privacy and to be secure in his own person just like the Constitution guarantees?

    As a principled conservative you should be saying just that.
     
  22. ChoppedLiver

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    Google is your friend, you st... oh, never mind.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner

    And, BTW... it ain't and WILL EVER BE murder.
     
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    Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 - I misread the ruling posted by another user: "It was found that use of deadly force to prevent escape is an unreasonable seizure under the Fourth Amendment, in the absence of probable cause that the fleeing suspect posed a physical danger."

    So if the officer cannot prove physical danger of some sort he will be found guilty of paralyzing the individual - since said individual was in close proximity to an officer and carrying a silver colored box cutter, which he was ordered to drop and failed to comply, I feel the shooting will be ruled as justified.


    I still cannot understand the rationale behind fighting with an officer - resisting arrest - or running. It is never going to end well.
     
  24. vman12

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    Sure, you guys can point whatever you'd like at the cops, ignore them, rob banks, whatever.

    Like I said, give it a whirl.
     
  25. truth and justice

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    At what point in the video did you see him running?

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    So you were able to hear the officer order the victim to drop something?
     

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