Debate: Israel – victim or aggressor?

{{{"""Well indeed, youre example to disprove my statement fails by your own admission. It was far even from palestine, from the zoinist council of palestine and didnt involve any zionist forces""}}}

Say WHATTTT, it was in the area they called "Palestine", Critter.


{{{"""So it wasnt an Israeli war - whats so hard about that to get?"""}}}

Anything that happened before May 14, 1948 was Arab riots where your beloved brethern were killing Jews and then the Jews started fighting back and your fool brethern hired and brought in ex-Nazis to help their with their Jewish problem. That didn't work either.


{{""To start with who is critter and why are you writing this word? Is it an intentional insult or a deception""}}

You call yourself "creation", so tell us what do you creat??? It is a disceptive word that comes to mind when I read your posts.


{{{"""Indeed Israel was declared in May 48, prior to that the forces of the precursor to Israel, the Zionist Council, were on the move."""}}}

What a crock of you know what. There was something called a Civil War going on that the Arabs, again, started on Dec. 2, 1947. I posted what happened and it would seem that you didn't bother to read it. So I will state it once more so you can look it up yourself. The Arabs attacked the Jews on Dec. 2, 1947 which started a Civil War. When Israel proclaimed it's self a nation the Arabs still held part of the southern area of the U.N. had partitioned to the Jews. Once more it was the Arabs causing the trouble and the Jews reacting to it.

{{{"""
As for your example, of riots, again its not a war. Not even a police action, or a move by an organised force. If thats to be counted you might as well count all the incidents of organised murder against both arabs and british almost every night for the year 1947."""}}}

Here's the difference between Arabs and Jews for the most part. The Jews attacked military targets where the Arabs attacked sleeping civilians for the most part.

 

Aden is in palestine? Remember this was your example;

Nonsense, before May 14 48 the Hagganah was on the offensive. In fact by May they'd cleansing villages for months. That means as soon as Israel was declared they were still on the offensive.

My forum name is no different than yours.

Um lets not get into who started it, just yet. Theres plenty of stuff going on. I did read your citation of the arab riot in december. Riots are not an offensive by a country, or nation state. Its just what people naturally do when the majority population gets its land divided in favour of hundreds of thousands of immigrants.

But lets agree that the forces of the precursor to Israel, the Zionist Council, were on the move. In fact by May they'd been cleansing villages for months. That means as soon as Israel was declared they were still on the offensive.

Hmm not really. Jewish terrorism against civilians was extensive. Not even including the executions and forced evictions by the precursor to the IDF of first villages then entire areas. But maybe you think villages full of civilians are military targets.

However its encouraging that youve given up on claiming Yom Kippur was some defensive action just because Israelis tell you it was. You might as well tell us that the Nazis were defending when they were attacked laying deep in Russian territory.

Oh and just under the Redo button here there is a button you can use to quote passages you wish to respond to.

 

My introduction to the Palestinians comes from the 1972 Munich Olympics when the PLO murdered those Israeli athletes. While I am not aware of what went on previous to 1972, it wouldn't have mattered because I could not then see any reason to ever murder innocent athletes.

There has been much back and forth since then. Suicide bombers in happy Israeli roadside cafes...the white walls splattered with the blood and bone fragments of innocent Israeli diners. Bombing of suspects in the territories and the unintentional collateral damage of Palestinian bystanders. In all of this I suppose there is some wiggle room for the Palestinians at justification.

But then came 9/11 and my final conclusion regarding the Palestinians. When news of the devastation and the deaths of 3000 innocents in the USA from Al Qaeda reached the Palestinians, they emptied out into their streets in jubilant celebration. Men, women and children, both young and old were absolutely ecstatic. It was then that I realized that these people are raging savages. No-one in their right minds cheers such a thing. Since then, I watched the daily rocketing of Israel from Palestinian territory, and the eventual Israel advancement to stop the rockets. In the end I don't care what happens to the Palestinians. They aren't even Palestinians. Actually they are migrant workers and the offspring of migrant workers from all over the middle east who migrated there in the early nineteen hundreds seeking work. Now they are a pawn to the Muslim countries surrounding Israel used as an excuse to torment Israel. Palestinians spent the past fifty years plotting murder. That's why they live in poverty. They could have built a pleasant nation. Instead they build lies and bombs.

 

Americans tend to be wilfully ignorant on this subect but Ill assume you dont want to be so, would you like to debate any of the above stuff? The bolded parts are interesting, have you explored anything of the palestinians and their experiences?

ANything from their side? Or do you take it all from israeli sources?

 

However its encouraging that youve given up on claiming Yom Kippur was some defensive action just because Israelis tell you it was. You might as well tell us that the Nazis were defending when they were attacked laying deep in Russian territory.[/QUOTE]

Say WHATT???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_war
The war began when the coalition launched a joint surprise attack on Israel on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in Judaism, which coincided with the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Arab-Israeli_War_of_1973
Egypt and Syria attempted to regain the territory Israeli forces gained during the 1967 war. Their armies launched a joint surprise attack on October 6 1973, on the tenth day of the Muslim month of Ramadan, which coincided with the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur that year.

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/egypt/articles/30878/title/arab-israeli-war-1973
Egypt and Syria initiated the conflict to regain territories that Israel had occupied since the Six-Day War of 1967.

How much of this do you want??? There are only several million sites saying the same thing. And, Critter, I was 27 years old when your Arab buddies invaded Israel in 73', so your barking up the wrong tree.

.[/QUOTE]
Oh and just under the Redo button here there is a button you can use to quote passages you wish to respond to.[/QUOTE]

Give me something with pistons and rods and I can do most anything with it but electronics...... forget it.

 

Critter I'm not ignorant on any thing to do with middle east history. And I KNOW who did what to whom, when, where, and why!!!

 

Indeed in response to my statement you told us that there was an anti jewish pogrom in aden. Didnt you?

So you pulled in a pogrom somwhere else to counter the point about Israeli wars.
By the same token I might as well explain to you about the internment of Japanese americans with absolutely no provocation. After all what does it matter right? Even if there is only the most tenuous of connections, that is enough...correct?

My silly arab friend? Is that comment the sort of behaviour youre proud of? Would you speak like that to people in your own neighborhood?

The arabs had been getting attacked for decades previously. The arab riot you mention was in response to a number of outrages including the partition decision.
Further, before during and after the very day and the very minute Israel was declared, its forces were on the offensive, arab armies moved after that, not before. Further they had already moved beyond the parition lines theyd agreed to. Therefore again Israelis have never ever fought a defensive war.

The point is there is no reason to be anything other than entirely respectful and call me by my forum name....not critter, not creature, not creative....not anything other than creation.
As a man you need to Treat others as you would expect to be treated yourself.

Why do you keep saying no cause? Do you really think no violence had occurred before Dec 47? Or that nothing had been done to anyone? I had thought you at least had some knowledge of this history.

And Im not getting upset, all I said was Israel has never fought a defensive war. Youre the one trying to deny this.

Again you prove my point. Zionist forces were in action long before Feb 48, arab riots were in response to previous actions.

Why no cause?Why do you keep saying that? On what basis do you keep saying no cause?

Look you cant just offer dumb blog offerings and flyers. Try reading a book and reference that. Or just use a website that sources from a creditable work.
I suggest you use Joan Peters From Time Immemorial, she probably has alot of things to say youd agree with. Or Alan Dershowitz perhaps.

Lets just re state what youre going to be so keen to disprove....

Jewish terrorism against civilians was extensive.

That means bombs placed in market places and work places, that means kidnapping and executions.

Not even including the destruction of houses with people in, as well as executions and forced evictions by the precursor to the IDF of first villages then entire areas. But maybe you think villages full of civilians are military targets..

And youll really hate this.....hundreds of thousands of arabs fled of their own accord, and also hundreds of thousands of arabs were forced out at gunpoint, then their homes were bulldozed and the villages wiped out - some 400 of them.

Now thats just gotta get right up your nose eh?

 

Ooooh look, youve quoted wiki. What a smooth move.

Would you agree then that that Whermact on the Eastern front were fighting a defensive war ?

Or was it the Soviets that were defending their own land?

Thats cool, perhaps then you could be more appreciative of my efforts to tidy up your comments for everyone to read rather than calling me names like critter or my silly arab friend.

Indeed, you should keep practicing though. Look on google books for more middle eastern history. Ill even recommend Norman Finkelstein or Avi Shlaim as very well researched historians.

 

Nice way to quote me out of context, next time don't do that (sorry for late reply, did not realize people were talking in this thread).

I said this:

I find it hysterical that you try to base your information on what happened in the Middle East “right after WW1” when you skipped to the Partition Plan immediately, which was after WWII! (nor was this a response to you but to some other guy a few months ago)

By the way, I haven't noticed all these people talking in this thread until today! It was dead for a while, and now all of sudden I see 5 new pages...

 

Sheesh just noticed how terrible this debate is... Everybody is just copy and pasting from wiki........

 

Agreed, its a low standard.

I dont expect this debate to contiue much longer. Saying Israel has never fought a defensive war is pretty easy to demonstrate.

 

{{""Indeed in response to my statement you told us that there was an anti jewish pogrom in aden. Didnt you?""}}

No, I posted;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Aden_pogrom

An Eyewitness Account of the Aden Pogrom of 1947: A Component of the Jewish Nakba

The Jewish Nakba – the Nakba you’re unlikely to read about in the leftwing media, and predictably unacknowledged by the Arab foes of Israel – entailed the flight and dispossession of some 800,000 Jews from vengeful Arab countries in the wake of the establishment of the State of Israel. The Palestinian Arabs who left Israel have of course been used as pawns by rejectionist Arab nations, deliberately leaving them in refugee camps as a major propaganda weapon against the Jewish State that they’ve failed to vanquish by force of arms despite repeated attempts. By contrast, despite huge financial burdens facing the infant nation, Jewish refugees from Arab countries were absorbed into Israeli society.

Which you failed to respond to so now I will post ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Aden_pogrom
The 1947 Aden pogrom was one of the most violent attacks on Mizrahi Jewish communities in the Middle East in the modern times, resulting in at least 82 Jews murdered and a widescale devastation of local Jewish community of Aden, bringing an end to its millennia long history.


And we will now see you telling how it was all the Jews fault. Ua, right, Crit.

{{""Is that comment the sort of behaviour youre proud of? Would you speak like that to people in your own neighborhood?""}}

Unlike some people on here I say what I believe where ever I am and who ever I'm with.

{{{"""The arabs had been getting attacked for decades previously. The arab riot you mention was in response to a number of outrages including the partition decision.
Further, before during and after the very day and the very minute Israel was declared, its forces were on the offensive, arab armies moved after that, not before. Further they had already moved beyond the parition lines theyd agreed to. Therefore again Israelis have never ever fought a defensive war.""}}}

Attacked by WHO??? If you mean Attacked by Jews, say so But IF you say the arabs were being attacked by Jews, Prove it, Crit.

{{""The point is there is no reason to be anything other than entirely respectful and call me by my forum name....not critter, not creature, not creative....not anything other than creation.""}}

Then start addressing the content of the posts to you. Other wise you are being disrespectful to me going on like I have said nothing and haven't posted the proof of what I have said. So far you have NOT addressed any of the evidence I have shown. I will go through it once more and this time address each item;


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Palestine_riots

The 1920 Palestine riots, or Nabi Musa riots, took place in British Mandate of Palestine April 4–7, 1920 in and around the Old City of Jerusalem.

The events coincided with and are named after the Christian/Muslim Easter holiday Nabi Musa and followed rising tensions in Arab-Jewish relations over the implications of Zionist immigration, tensions which coincided with attacks on outlying Jewish settlements in the Galilee. Speeches by Arab religious leaders during the festival, in which traditionally large numbers of Muslims gathered for a religious procession, led to a serious outbreak of violent assaults on the city's Jews, with five Jews killed and hundreds wounded.


Who STARTED the Killing? Just answer the question and have proof of your answer.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots
The 1929 Palestine riots, also known as the Western Wall Uprising, the 1929 Massacres, (Hebrew: מאורעות תרפ"ט‎‎, Meora'ot Tarpat, lit. Events of 5689 Anno Mundi), or the Buraq Uprising (Arabic: ثورة البراق&#8206, refers to a series of demonstrations and riots in late August 1929 when a long-running dispute between Muslims and Jews over access to the Western Wall in Jerusalem escalated into violence. During the week of riots 116 Arabs and 133 Jews were killed and 232 Arabs and 198 Jews were injured and treated in hospital.[1] According to the official report, "many of the Arab casualties and possibly some of the Jewish casualties were caused by rifle fire by the police or military forces".[1]


Who started the killing??? And your proof.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936–1939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine
The 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine or Great Arab Revolt was a nationalist uprising by Palestinian Arabs in Mandate Palestine against British colonial rule and mass Jewish immigration.[10]

The revolt consisted of two distinct phases.[11] The first phase was directed primarily by the urban and elitist Higher Arab Committee (HAC) and was focused mainly on strikes and other forms of political protest.[11] By October 1936, this phase had been defeated by the British civil administration using a combination of political concessions, international diplomacy (involving the rulers of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan and Yemen[1]) and the threat of martial law.[11] The second phase, which began late in 1937, was a violent and peasant-led resistance movement that increasingly targeted British forces.[11]

Who started the Killing and wheres your proof?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Riots_of_1947
The 1947 Jerusalem Riots occurred following the vote in the UN General Assembly in favour of the 1947 UN Partition Plan on 29 November 1947.

The Arab Higher Committee declared a three-day strike and public protest to begin on 2 December 1947, in protest at the vote. Arabs marching to Zion Square on December 2 were stopped by the British, and the Arabs instead turned towards the commercial center of the City at Mamilla and Jaffa Road, burning many buildings and shops. Violence continued for two more days, with a number of Jewish neighborhoods being attacked"led directly



Once more, who started the Killing and your proof?

And while we are at it, once more, just to make my point;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Aden_pogrom
The 1947 Aden pogrom was one of the most violent attacks on Mizrahi Jewish communities in the Middle East in the modern times, resulting in at least 82 Jews murdered and a widescale devastation of local Jewish community of Aden, bringing an end to its millennia long history

Who started the killing and where is your proof?

I will continue this on the next post to you.

 

Aggressor.

The End.

 

{{"Ooooh look, youve quoted wiki. What a smooth move."}}

Prove Wiki wrong, we will wait.................... .......... ......., got the proof yet??? No??? O.K., we will wait a little longer, ..... ....... ......................... ..............., sitll nothing?? I didn't think so. Wiki isn't the mose indepth site but what they have is correct.


{{{""Would you agree then that that Whermact on the Eastern front were fighting a defensive war ? Or was it the Soviets that were defending their own land?""}}

At what point of the war are you talking about??? Oh, yes, it DOES make a difference. Are you talking about 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944, or 1945??? And where at on the Eastern front??? Yes, that makes a difference too, and just for those that don't know the German Wehrmacht were the German armed forces. The Soviets were on the Offensive from July 1943 to the end of the war. The U.S. never fought a defensive war in Europe. In the Pacific we went on the offensive in Aug. 1942.

http://www.netplaces.com/world-war-ii/europe/the-soviet-offensive.htm
The Soviet offensive began just as the German offensive was ending. In July 1943, as German and Soviet tank battalions duked it out in the Soviet city of Kursk, the Red Army began its offensive. The first attack occurred at the German-held town of Orel on July 12. By August 6, the Soviets had retaken the town and destroyed 1,500 German tanks in the process. On August 3, General Zhukov launched an offensive against the German line at Kharkov, south of Kursk. Three weeks later, the city was again under Soviet control, with Germany losing another 1,500 tanks. Smolensk was recaptured on September 25 and Kiev on November 6. Within just a few months, most of Germany's victories in the Soviet Union had been reversed.

When the Russians entered Germany were they still fighting a defencive war in your view???

The rest of your post consisted of nothing but isults that don't deserve an answer.

 

The link to wikipedia about Aden that you quoted has no sources at all.It means that someone has just written all that stuff on there with nothing to back it up at all and you have quoted it as factual. You should really check the sources before linking and quoting wiki,especially when it has anything to do with Israel,Jews etc as the Israeli supporters gang virtually run that website and post all sorts of rubbish on it,I know I edited there for a pretty long time. Wikipedia can be a good source for info on many subjects but where Israel/Jews are concerned it is the worst.

 

No what the usual suspects do is ignore the evidence. The 67 war was purely defensive, however instead of listening to even the UN the US have the need to put the propgandastic spin on it. World opinion was with Israel saying the 67 war was defensive. The US's (usual suspects) reject world opinion when it does not serve them, and embraces it when it does.

Not from wiki;

"The Israel War of Independence in 1948 was considered lawful and in self-defense as
may be reflected in UN resolutions naming Israel a “peace loving state”6 when it
applied for membership at the United Nations. Both the Security Council (4
March, 1949, S/RES/69) and the UN General Assembly (11 May, 1949,
(A/RES/273 (III)) declared:

“[Security Council] Decides in its judgment that Israel is a peace-loving State and
is able and willing to carry out the obligations contained in the Charter …”

The the above reference to the war of Independence was in self defense as written by the court (international). The 67 war was likewise fought in self defense.

'International law makes a clear distinction between defensive wars and wars of
aggression. Egypt’s blockade of the waterway known as the Strait of Tiran, which
prevented access to Israel’s southern port of Eilat, was an act of aggression that
led to the Six-Day War in 1967. More than six decades after the 1948 War and
four decades since the 1967 Six-Day War, it is hard to imagine the dire
circumstances Israel faced and the price it paid to fend off its neighbors’ attacks.

In 1967, the combined Arab armies had approximately 465,000 troops, more
than 2,880 tanks and 810 aircrafts,7 preparing to attack Israel at once. Israel,
faced with the imminent threat of obliteration, was forced to invoke its right of
self-defense, a basic tenet of international law, enshrined in Article 518 of the
United Nations Charter. Israel launched a surprised pre-emptive air strike
against Egypt on June 5, 1967'.

And god bless them for that! They faced a overwhelming force massed on their borders. Why would Israel commit potential suicide going against that much lopsided force? The answer they wouldn't ! The Arabs had planned for war and they agressed' the war. Luckily Israel (well it was God that saved them as God saved them in biblical times), and they won by a near miracle (or a real miracle).

reva


NEVER AGAIN

 

The evidence says otherwise.

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/finkelstein-on-the-june-1967-war/

 

There was no blockade at all,never happened as proven by Indar Jit Rikhye who was in charge of UN forces there and wrote a book about it called The Sinai Blunder. Finkelstein even phoned him up before he died to confirm it. You are just repeating stuff from Israeli websites that has been proven untrue.

 

Just like world opinion or UN opinion or the world court ie the international court, it the rulings or sentiment serves them ie the Pals attempts of stealing Israels land or Hamas weakening her ability to defend herself the U.S.'s embrace only what suits them. I have seen the Usual suspects us qoutes from wiki, so what gives? I too agree that Wiki is not the best most reliable source but they are a very good place to begin then verify with another site or two. Hang in there Beenthere you are speaking truth.

Reva



NEVER AGAIN

 

Yes not from wiki,you have actually quoted a website called mythsandfacts.com which is a bit of a joke,it is just some pro Israeli website with no credibility at all.

 

Just what in that full page interview with the Isreal hater (Mr Fink)elstein do you want to rebut my comments with?

Here is the books he is written, my quotes are from the world court and such your defense is a man that has written nothing but Israel and USA bashing articles.

“This Time We Went Too Far”: Truth and consequences of the Gaza invasion (OR Books, 2010; expanded paperback version, 2011);

Beyond Chutzpah: On the misuse of anti-Semitism and the abuse of history (University of California Press, 2005; expanded paperback edition, 200;

The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the exploitation of Jewish suffering (Verso, 2000; expanded paperback edition, 2003);

Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict (Verso, 1995; expanded paperback edition, 2003);

A Nation on Trial: The Goldhagen thesis and historical truth (with Ruth Bettina Birn) (Henry Holt, 199;

The Rise and Fall of Palestine: A personal account of the intifada years(University of Minnesota, 1996);

Finkelstein has also published several pamphlets, most recently, Goldstone Recants: Richard Goldstone renews Israel’s license to kill (OR Books, 2011).

He is currently working on a new book entitled KNOWING TOO MUCH: Why the American Jewish love affair with Israel is coming to an end.

Yeah...and you guys criticize beenthere for using wiki? That's rich. Its obvious that the 67 war was fought in self defense. Any one sane and just having rudimentary knowledge of military strategy and geopolitical events can research the events leading up to the 67 war and determine with ease the war was instigated by the Arabs. Now, Israel may have been technically wrong in the preemptive strike. Realistically she was right. If Israel had of waited until the Arabs had began their attacks of all flanks Israel would not exist today. Its kind of like when my truck broke down in crack town. A group of guys that looked no older than 12 gathered around me asking for five dollars etc. The truck started and I nailed it running over one youth about the same time I was hit from behind (it was an early model bronco convertible ie the top off). My blood hit the windshield and the kids blood stained my hood. It took ten stitches to sew my lip an face together (it was a slap jack I got hit with). The little bastards mom filed charges even though he was in a gang! I won in court, it was dismissed because of several reasons even though as the judge said I was technically wrong to run over the little monster. Oh yeah he had an broken arm nose and concussion. I learned that that street I on was a murder scene, a guy had been shot there two nites before I ended up in the same place.

reva

 

If you give a USA/Israel spin doctor hater the authority to make your mind up. You might as well go to a seance call up Hitler and ask his opinion on the Jewish state. History is a better taskmaster and you dont have to compromise your morals to make your mind up.

reva

 

Is that right??? And you have proof that what was on Wiki is wrong?? May I see your proof??

I am posting these sites and they all say essentialy the same thing, so, as I said, if you have proof they are all wrong, please post it.




http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2011/05/16/the-pogrom-of-aden-in-1947-the-jewish-nakba/

http://uk.ask.com/wiki/1947_Aden_pogrom

http://jewishrefugees.blogspot.com/2011/05/massacred-jews-of-aden-part-of-jewish.html

http://www.kosherdelight.com/Yemen_Jews_of_Aden_1947_Pogrom.shtml

http://trendsbuzz.com/q/Pogroms

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/arabjew.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052795/posts

 

BS!!!

Jan -March 1967 Over 270 border "incidents" cause rising concern in Israel. March 3 - Landmine injures tractorist in Kibbutz Shamir. March 12, explosion on train tracks near Kibbutz Lahav. March 26, 2 Palestinians killed trying to demolish a water pump near Arad.

April 7, 1967 Israelis respond to intensive Syrian shelling of DMZ and and Israeli villages and kibbutzim with IAF raid. An air battle involving about 130 aircraft developed. Israelis down 6 MiG 21 fighters, 2 over the Golan and 4 over Damascus.

Jan-April 1967----63 Arab attacks (Syrian tank fire, mines, more than 200 mortar shells, Palestinian terror attacks) heighten anxiety in Israel

May 11, 1967 Israeli PM Eshkol states, "In view of the 14 incidents in the past month alone it is possible that we will have to adopt measures no less drastic than those of April 7." UPI circulated a rumor (May 12) that Israel was trying to topple the Syrian regime. The incidents included shelling, terror attacks and attempted infiltration of a Syrian agent to blow up locations in Jerusalem.

May 13, 1967 Soviets inform Anwar Sadat in Moscow that Israel is massing 10-12 brigades in preparation for an attack on Syria, supposedly to take place May 17. The information is false, as were several similar previous Soviet warnings.

May 14, 1967--Egypt mobilizes thousands of its troops in and around the Suez Canal. Nasser finds no Israeli buildup, but continues massing troops.

May 16, 1967--Egypt moves into Sinai, demands U.N. peacekeepers withdraw.

May 18, 1967--U.N. Secretary General U Thant agrees to Egyptian demand to remove UNEF.

May 19, 1967--Tens of thousands of Egyptian troops mass in the Sinai.

May 22, 1967--Act of War; Egypt closes the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping.

May 23, 1967--President Johnson calls blockade illegal and disastrous for peace.

May 24 - June 4, 1967--Six Arab countries deploy more than 230,000 troops close to Israel's boundary lines.

May 27, 1967--Nasser cancels planned Egyptian attack on Israel.

May 29, 1967 Speech by Gamal Nasser to Egyptian National Assembly Members - Nasser explicitly threatened to destroy Israel: "...God will surely help and urge us to restore the situation to what it was in 1948....But now that the time has come - and I have already said in the past that we will decide the time and place and not allow them to decide - we must be ready for triumph and not for a recurrence of the 1948 comedies. "

Nassar's May 29 speech;
http://www.mideastweb.org/nasser29may67.htm

May 31 - June 4, 1967--"Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map!"

So, nor, who started the whole show, Israel or Syria??? Your April 7th nonsense is just that, nonsense.

http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/six_day_war_timeline.htm

http://www.sixdaywar.org/timeline.asp

 

These say your wrong. Hey, you use yours, I'll use mine. And guess what??? Nassar kicked the U.N. peace keepers out on May 18, 1967 so HOW could your dear Indar Jit Rikhye know anything when he wasn't there????

http://www.sixdaywar.org/content/docs.asp
President Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran
Excerpt from a speech delivered by President Nasser to his troops in Sinai on May 23, 1967, announcing the new blockade

... Yesterday the armed forces [of Egypt] occupied Sharm el-Sheikh. What does this mean? It is an affirmation of our rights, of our sovereignty over the Gulf of Aqaba, which constitutes Egyptian territorial waters. Under no circumstances can we permit the Israeli flag to pass through the Gulf of Aqaba. The Jews threaten war. We say that they are welcome to war, we are ready for war, our armed forces, our people, all of us are ready for war, but under no circumstances shall we abandon our rights. These are our waters ...



http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Foreign+R...Reimposes+a+Naval+Blockade+on+the+Straits.htm
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_sixday_backgd.php

http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/six_day_war_timeline.htm
Oct. 29, 1956 Suez Campaign. In retaliation for a series of escalating border raids as well as the closure of the straits of Tiran and Suez canal to Israeli shipping, and to prevent Egyptian use of newly acquired Soviet arms in a war, Israel invades the Sinai peninsula and occupies it for several months, with French and British collaboration. French and British were interested in reversing the nationalization of the canal. Israel withdraws after a UN peace keeping force is placed in Sinai, and US guarantees right of passage for Israeli shipping through the Straits of Tiran. Suez Canal reopened March 23, 1957.