Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

I’m 100% certain I know how I was trained, you get a fancy certificate in case you have to go to court. The knee across the neck and shoulder has been taught for almost 30 years as a restraint. At least in Texas, maybe where you live it’s different.

 

I’ve shown you already

 

You posted some textbook before about this. And it does say the person needs to be put in the recovery position to safe the person from asphyxia. So the warning of what can happen when you refuse to do that, is given. Chauvin had many MANY hours of training. A fellow cop reminded him. He refused to comply to standards. And subsequently killed the guy. Hence he got convicted for murder.

Cops who took the stand all agree that what Chauvin did was wrong. Your opinion means nothing. That is besides Chauvin focused to get his knee in the guys neck, and not across the shoulder.

 

Well yes ofcourse they do.

I'm sure you think this is a clever answer, but in reality it just hides the fact you know that in
"No precinct anywhere in the US can a police officer kneel on the neck of a subdued, handcuffed and face down laying suspect for over 9 minutes until they die."

 

What has that got to do with the video?
And the bit you missed in your training (perhaps you had a cold that day) is the bit where they said not for 9 minutes until the person dies.

 

where does it say that in ANY police manual?

 

They do not specify the time you are allowed to restrain someone. You do know there isn't a time limit in the manual, right?

 

Don't be stupid. It doesn't say 10 minutes or 12 minutes or until they are dead. Did you need that in there to understand it?
If so then god preserve us from the police.
Have you read the section where they say you can't boil them in oil or draw and quarter them, or is that not in there either?

 

Do they mention, not until dead or do you think they expect you to know that instinctively?

 

So you concede that it doesn't actually specifically state it's not allowed then?

Police sometimes have to apply some interpretation to the guidelines?

 

Seems more like he made a mistake than do something that was a criminal offence.

A mistake that was not entirely non-understandable given that situation.

 

Willingly. but I'm not into stupid word games and don't believe they win arguments.

 

all of them. that you think people are trained to kneel on a suspects neck while handcuffed for over 9 minutes until they die is ****ing hilarious, and quite frankly dangerous. this is how we know you are not nor have you ever been a cop.

 

the law specifically does not allow them.

 

it is not possible to accidentally kneel on a handcuffed, face down laying suspects neck for over 9 minutes until they are dead. That is a deliberate act.

it was in no way understandable. Floyd was in no way a threat or danger to any of the 5 officers surrounding him. Kneeling on his neck for over 9 minutes and killing him, is by definition, murder. It's why chauvin is in prison.

 

They did not have a time to identify that person is insane, they were struggling.
So kneeling was appropriate technique.

 

After Chauvin Verdict, Black Police Officers Consider What Has Changed : NPR
You have to consider what happens from here.

 

As I recall the trial: a fellow cop suggested to put him in the recovery position, and he declined and calmly lynched the guy to death with his hand in his pocked.... that kind of "understandable given situation" where split second decisions were made 9 and a half minutes long to refuse to do what he was taught again and again. Where his victim stopped breathing in the last 3 minutes. Hence it's no mistake anymore. But good for you thinking differently.

 

HE specifically added the time to what HE claims the laws states. It's pretty funny, so I keep asking him and get a crawfish response. The point is the law doesn't address anything the way he claimed.

 

No one instinctively knows things like that when you're dealing with someone on narcotics and poor health. The police are not doctors.

 

If it's in there as YOU CLAIM then show me. This is why I gave you the wager option, because you're gonna hide from any claim you make.

 

I ahve

directly refuting your claim by citing 50 separate statutes is not hiding from a claim, lol.

 

It is my opinion that he did not, but that you took the words literally in order to avoid the real point he was making.

 

it says nothing of the kind, you've quoted nothing but yourself. doesn't matter, police officers will continue to use this technique safely for years to come.