DeSantis suspends Tampa prosecutor who vowed not to criminalize abortion

Ah yes the lump everyone together so you can continue to attack people..

I never supported Citizen United so there goes your entire post..

How about you treat people like individuals and discuss the topic that way instead of blindly lashing out... Take your own sentence and head the advice.. Or put me on ignore .. Your choice.

 

We all were and yet we are all a human person from the moment of conception to our present condition.

 

If he is not going to enforce the law then there will be no cases..........how convenient.

 

His letter in his official capacity stating he would pick and choose which laws he will enforce is primary facie evidence of malfeasance and a violation of his oath of office. No need to wait until he acts on those intentions.

 

Really, then why bring out the Soros argument that he funded this or that person while at the same time being totally complacent, silent, and possibly ignorant when Adelson, Koch, and others have done the same, bloody, pun intended thing? Is it possible that you specifically, or politically agree with one and not the other. If that is the case, then say so. At least that is more honest, right? Or will you continue to play the games as others have done as you did with this response RP12?

Want to continue to play this game, be my guest. But remember, it does come with consequences.

Finally, respect is earned, not given. I gave them the chances, and they blew it, period. End of story. So, they get what they deserved, nothing more, nothing less. Don't like it, grow a pair.

 

Its what Soros is pushing not his religion that people have an issue with... So take your tired Media Matters debate tactics and go run along ....

Oh what Consequences would that be? Sounds like a veiled threat to me....

 

Right like the two cold cases his office just solved? I’m sure this families give a **** about some letter.

 

And what exactly were those cold cases about?

 

One was rape and murder from 1983, and another murder case. Important stuff. Not the nonsense DeSantis seems worried about.

 

'Blatant abuse of power': Ousted Florida prosecutor sues DeSantis over suspension
Source: Politico

"Ousted Hillsborough County State Attorney Andrew Warren on Wednesday filed a federal lawsuit arguing Gov. Ron DeSantis abused his power when suspending him from office over, among other things, a pledge to not prosecute women who violate Florida’s new 15-week abortion ban.

DeSantis detractors immediately condemned Warren’s Aug. 4 suspension as political overreach and targeting a political foe. The governor framed the move as maintaining his “law and order” philosophy and characterized Warren’s suspension as removing a progressive prosecutor who refused to enforce laws. Warren has twice been elected to serve as State Attorney for the 13th Judicial Circuit.

“This morning I filed a suit in federal court to challenge that blatant abuse of power by Governor DeSantis in suspending me as state attorney,” Warren said during a Wednesday morning press conference in Tallahassee. “There is so much more at stake here than my job.

Warren’s lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court Northern District of Florida, alleges that DeSantis violated his First Amendment rights by suspending him for signing a pledge to not prosecute women for seeking abortions and his public statements opposing the criminalization of transgender people. He is asking the court to throw out DeSantis’ executive order used to suspended him and to rule governors are not allowed to take similar actions moving forward.

It also alleges DeSantis overstepped his authority to suspend elected officials from office because he did so with Warren only for signing pledges, rather than in response to an official action. The issue is likely now headed to the Republican-led Florida Senate, which would have to take action before Warren is formally removed from office."

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...tis-in-federal-court-over-suspension-00052345

 

I call BS. The doctor told a 30 year old woman, in modern American society, that she needed her father's permission for a tubal ligation? BS.

 

Looks like this Soros prosecutor is a real idiot.

First, this Soros clown refuses to enforce prohibitions on sexual mutilation of minors or restrictions on abortion after the 15 month cut-off. 15 weeks is a more permissive standard that most of the world, most of Europe, all of France and even than Roe v Wade. It does allow abortions for cases that pose "serious risk" to the pregnant person and fatal fetal abnormality. This is a perfectly reasonable standard.

In the 191 nations of the world only portions of the United States, Canada, North Korea, China, Singapore and the Netherlands allow abortions beyond 20 weeks according to politifact, but, I thought that at least portions of Australia did as well.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...untries-allow-abortions-after-20-weeks-gesta/

Suffice to say it's not an extreme standard and it's the will of The People of Florida as expressed through their elected representatives.

So along comes this goober who thinks he can nullify the elected Legislature, at will. He fancies himself a despot. And to his great surprise, he finds himself out on his ass.



His legal arguments reveal that in addition to everything else, he is a mouth breathing moron.

Self-righteous, arrogant, and stupid can be a painful combination. He claims a “blatant abuse of power” for taking Warren at his word.

It's on, but not for long: Suspended prosecutor, and noted numbskull, sues DeSantis for "blatant abuse of power".

No, DeSantis didn't guess "that Warren would refuse to enforce new state laws regarding abortion and sex-change procedures on minors. Warren signed a public pledge to refuse those cases and then publicized that action as a means of political jousting in Florida. As the Florida Supreme Court made clear four years earlier, State Attorneys do not have that range of “prosecutorial discretion” because such policies do not involve discretion at all, but rather defiance of the laws passed by state legislatures." Ooof!

"Nor does the “I haven’t started yet” argument work in regard to the precedent set in Ayala v Scott in 2017, either. Then-governor Rick Scott used the same constitutional authority to remove Aramis Ayala from potential death-penalty cases because she had declared publicly that she would not pursue the death penalty in any such cases in the 9th Judicial District. Immediately after her press conference, Scott issued executive orders moving all such cases to the 5th Judicial District."

"The state supreme court upheld Scott’s orders on a 5-2 decision, but even the dissent in this case doesn’t help Warren. The dissent argued that prosecutors might have rational reasons to avoid death-penalty results — and that it wasn’t as if Ayala had announced that she would have a blanket policy refusing to enforce the statutes themselves."

"Neither the majority nor the dissent raised any issues with Scott taking action on the basis of public statements by Ayala or demanded they wait until some point when those intentions produced concrete results. DeSantis followed the path laid out in Ayala."

"Now the argument that Warren wants to make in court is that no one should take his signed pledges and public statements seriously. That’s one hell of an argument for an elected official to put in front of a judge, let alone your constituents!"

'DeSantis clearly has the authority to do this."

He'll lose. And likely be directed to filing for a trial in the Senate if he wishes to pursue this further. That shoudl be fun.

SENATE TRIAL:
"If Warren wants his job back, he has to make the political argument for abuse of power to that constitutional body. Warren will have to convince the Republican majority in the upper chamber that
(a) he has the power to unilaterally negate statutes passed by the state legislature,
(b) DeSantis “abused” his power by preventing Warren from exercising unconstitutional vetoes over legislative action, and
(c) no one can trust what Warren pledges to do even when he signs his name to such petitions and publicly proclaims his fealty to those positions."

None of that passes the giggle test. This Turkey's sensor has popped. He's done.

 

Potential relevant law: https://law.justia.com/codes/florida/2021/title-x/chapter-112/part-v/section-112-48/

The problem this prosecutor has is that he has made blanket declarations that victims of specific types crimes will not be able to have justice from this office. He has legally conflicted himself out of the job. By making sweeping generalizations that specific victims can pound sand he made a strong case for his removal before he has the ability to subvert justice as he has publicly declared he will do. Liberal prosecutors have been way too public about their desire to vacate the law and hopefully this is the first in a long line of DAs who get the boot.

 

Federal judge blocks part of Florida's Stop WOKE Act
WJCT News | By Jim Saunders - News Service of Florida,
Ryan Dailey - News Service of Florida
Published August 18, 2022 at 4:40 PM EDT


Gov. Ron DeSantis announces plans to restrict the teaching of race-related concepts in schools and workplaces.
"Calling part of the law a “naked viewpoint-based regulation on speech,” a federal judge Thursday blocked restrictions that Gov. Ron DeSantis and Republican lawmakers placed on addressing race-related issues in workplace training.

Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker, in a 44-page ruling, issued a preliminary injunction against part of the controversial new law, which DeSantis dubbed the “Stop WOKE Act.” Walker agreed with three businesses and a consultant that restrictions in the law violate the First Amendment.

“If Florida truly believes we live in a post-racial society, then let it make its case,” Walker wrote. “But it cannot win the argument by muzzling its opponents. Because, without justification, the (law) attacks ideas, not conduct, Plaintiffs are substantially likely to succeed on the merits of this lawsuit.”

The ruling came on the same day that a group of university professors and a university student filed a federal lawsuit challenging another part of the law restricting how race-related concepts are addressed in education. Another education-related challenge also is pending in federal court.

The law (HB 7), which DeSantis signed April 22, spurred fierce debates before passing during this year’s legislative session. DeSantis called it the “Stop Wrongs To Our Kids and Employees Act,” or Stop WOKE Act.

The employment-related part of the law lists eight race-related concepts and says that a required training program or other activity that “espouses, promotes, advances, inculcates, or compels such individual (an employee) to believe any of the following concepts constitutes discrimination based on race, color, sex, or national origin.”

As an example of the concepts, the law targets compelling employees to believe that an “individual, by virtue of his or her race, color, sex, or national origin, bears personal responsibility for and must feel guilt, anguish, or other forms of psychological distress because of actions, in which the individual played no part, committed in the past by other members of the same race, color, sex, or national origin.”

Attorneys for the businesses filed their lawsuit June 22 and subsequently requested a preliminary injunction, saying the law violates the ability to discuss issues such as racism and implicit bias with employees.

The plaintiffs in the case are Primo Tampa LLC, a Ben & Jerry’s ice-cream franchisee; Honeyfund.com Inc., a Clearwater-based technology company that provides wedding registries; and Chevara Orrin and her company, Collective Concepts LLC. Orrin and her company provide consulting and training to employers about issues such as diversity, equity and inclusion.

After Walker granted the preliminary injunction, officials from the businesses issued statements about the need for diversity training and addressing issues such as systemic racism.

“Diversity in the workplace is demonstrably good for business, so we need to be able to educate employees about the threats to diversity,” Honeyfund.com CEO Sara Margulis said in a statement. “Diversity trainings often address concepts like systemic racism, unconscious bias and privilege. I am thankful that the court’s order will enable Honeyfund to bring diversity training on these topics to all of our employees.”

In court filings, attorneys for the state disputed that the law violates First Amendment rights, saying it only bars businesses from requiring employees to take part in training programs that use the targeted concepts.

“They (the law’s restrictions) leave employers free to engage in, promote and pay for any speech they wish, including the invidiously biased speech targeted by the act, and they leave willing employees free to hear and to join in it,” the state’s lawyers wrote last month. “All they prevent is the use of the employer’s coercive economic leverage over its employees to make them an offer they can’t refuse: Listen to the company’s speech or clear out your desk.”

But Walker, who also turned down a state motion to dismiss the case Thursday, rejected the arguments by the state’s lawyers.

The law "targets speech — endorsing any of eight concepts — and only incidentally burdens conduct,” Walker wrote. “Even the slightest endorsement of any of the eight concepts at any required employment activity violates the statute; the (law) requires no evidence that the statement be even subjectively offensive. Nor does the (law) require that the statement create a severely or pervasively hostile work environment.”

In the separate lawsuit filed Thursday, the university professors and the student argued the law constitutes “racially motivated” censorship. The 92-page lawsuit, also filed in the Northern District of Florida, focuses on the measure’s effect on universities.

“The Stop WOKE Act is racially motivated censorship that the Florida Legislature enacted, in significant part, to stifle widespread demands to discuss, study, and address systemic inequalities, following the nationwide protests that provoked discussions about race and racism in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd,” the lawsuit said, referring to the 2020 murder of a Black man in Minneapolis that touched off nationwide protests.

The plaintiffs, alleging that the law violates the First Amendment and is unconstitutionally vague, are seeking a preliminary injunction."


cont:
https://news.wjct.org/state-news/2022-08-18/judge-blocks-part-of-stop-woke-act

 

That's not what he did. He got rid of a dirty prosecutor who tried to put his judgement above that of the duly elected legislature of a Free People.

Newsom's in-laws fled California in the pandemic. Guess where they ended up?


Gov Greaseball's inlaws like Desantis better.

 

Even in federal court, DeSantis can't lose for winning

DeSantis remove proregressive prosecutor Warren for “neglect of duty” and “incompetence” as the state attorney of Hillsborough County.

'“To take a position that you have veto powers over the laws of the state is untenable,” DeSantis said at a press conference in Tampa surrounded by law enforcement.'

Accurately citing the Eleventh Amendment (federal courts shall keep their noses out of intra-state matters), 'Hinkle — a federal judge appointed in 1996 by Bill Clinton — concluded that 'the former head of prosecuting crime in Hillsborough County had come to the wrong court. '

This guy DeSantis fired is a real dumbass. He is so lax about prosecuting crime that he hasn't even learned which court a particular case should be filed in?

The Court told this former prosecutor-clown:

'The 11th Amendment prohibits a federal court from awarding declaratory or injunctive relief of the kind at issue against a state official based only on a violation of state law.​

 

DESANTIS ONE, SOROS ZERO: Federal Judge Upholds DeSantis’s Suspension of State Attorney for ‘Neglect of Duty’.

Other supposedly conservative governors? Learn.



'DeSantis suspended the George Soros-backed attorney in August after he said he would not enforce the laws banning child sex surgeries and abortions after 15 weeks.'

'DeSantis suspended Warren that he thinks that “some of these prosecutors that have very militant agenda in terms of ideology have been able to get away with a lot in other states.”'

They will enforce the rule of law.

 

DESANTIS ONE, SOROS ZERO: Federal Judge Upholds DeSantis’s Suspension of State Attorney for ‘Neglect of Duty’.

Other supposedly conservative governors? Learn.



'DeSantis suspended the George Soros-backed attorney in August after he said he would not enforce the laws banning child sex surgeries and abortions after 15 weeks.'

'DeSantis suspended Warren that he thinks that “some of these prosecutors that have very militant agenda in terms of ideology have been able to get away with a lot in other states.”'

They will enforce the rule of law.

 

I'm actually okay with this. In fact, I think this should always be applied, but across the board. That includes examples like law enforcement members who've declined to enforce gun laws. I'm okay with police having some discretion on things like summary offenses and some misdemeanors but there does need to be an upper limit.

The police and the DA's office don't make laws. That's been pointed out and it's true. We shouldn't allow them to decline to enforce the law.

 

Bloomberg reported, "Ron DeSantis scored a legal and political victory as a federal judge declined to reinstate a prosecutor the Florida governor suspended for saying he wouldn’t bring criminal charges under the state’s 15-week abortion ban."

'There is a difference between prosecutorial discretion -- not pursuing a case because the evidence does not warrant it -- and prosecutorial veto, which this joker tried to get away with.'

Yeah, so long to this proregressive prosecutor who categorically refuses to prosecute.

 

Good for DeSantis. If the people want these laws enforced seditious assclowns should be removed if they stand in the way.

Prosecutor is lucky he isn't being prosecuted.

 

Another Prosecutor that may a lack of motivation to protect the public from violent felons:

'DeSantis to DA: Give me all your documentation on why you allowed the Pine Hills shooter to remain on the street'



'Not 24 hours after a murder spree in the west Orlando suburb of Pine Hills left three dead, including a young local TV journalist, and two others wounded, scrabbling over fresh corpses to decry America’s gun culture while indicting its most steadfast political allies — the self-same Republicans who, they charge, stain every shooting spree with their bloody fingerprints.'

'“Too many lives are being ripped apart by gun violence,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters Thursday. On this, we do not disagree. So, hooray! Common ground!'

'Then came the reliable left-wing shibboleth: “The president continues to call on Congress to act on gun safety and for state officials to take action at the state level.”'

VILE OPPORTUNIST WH VULTURES SHOW UP WHILE THE BODIES ARE STILL WARM TO MAKE POLITICAL HAY OUR OF TRAGEDY.

'The Left tried to make the Pine Hills triple murder into a political cause celebre — right up until police arrested the alleged perpetrator, a known gang member with an extensive record of violent crime. “Gun safety” had backfired into a discussion of laissez-faire progressive prosecutors and “decarceration” policies — and Ron DeSantis pushed back hard at that time.'

'authorities have detailed an expansive rap sheet that includes arrests for grand theft and domestic violence — the shooter is someone who would not have passed any lawful background check.'

NO ONE CLOSE TO THE SHOOTER filed for a court order under Florida’s red-flag statutes.

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...hills-shooter-to-remain-on-the-street-n534105

 

'DeSantis sent to State Attorney Monique Worrell a demand for documents related to her decisions not to prosecute Keith Melvin Moses when she could have taken him off the streets. At the time of his November 2021 arrest for possession of distribution-level cannabis, Moses already had firearms charges and was on probation for previous violent offenses. Nevertheless, Worrell’s office declined to prosecute or hold Moses, and DeSantis wants to know why:'

'a dangerous felon was allowed to go free and commit murders as a result. That is a more clear-cut case of insubordination and dereliction of duty, and DeSantis clearly wants to draw a line in the sand over it.'

'Ever since the story turned last week, Worrell has been trying to defend herself and her office for their failures to prosecute the firearms laws that are already on Florida’s books. DeSantis had already publicly criticized the way Worrell handled Moses, which prompted Worrell to characterize DeSantis’ criticism as “shameful” and “politicized.” That’s rather rich, considering the 24-hour stampede by Democrats from Joe Biden on down to blame the Pine Hills murders on a lack of laws controlling firearms.'

THEY ALWAYS WANT MORE LAWS, EVEN WHILE THEY REFUSE TO ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.

'DeSantis isn’t playing around, and he’s not going to get played by the Left and the media.'

 

Another Soros funded prosecutor.

 

Here we go.
Will Little Musso sign the 6 week abortion ban now that he was reelected governor?
Is he testing the winds again on Independent voters for a 2024 run?

Interesting that the bill doesn't outright ban medical abortion pills that are used in over 50% of early pregnancies.
A doctor's prescription is now needed so there's no over the counter purchases or mail-order.

Are Florida's christo-fascist politicians so confident that the Trump appointed anti-lgbtq and anti-abortion judge will rule against the FDA on the medical abortion pills thereby for now relieving DeSantis being responsible of signing a bill still making them available?

'Florida Republicans Propose 6-Week Abortion Ban'
"The bills would tighten the current 15-week limit and offer narrow exceptions. Gov. Ron DeSantis said he welcomed “pro-life legislation.”

https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/us/florida-abortion-ban-republicans.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/us/florida-abortion-ban-republicans.html