DHS ordering 15 million shotgun slugs and 10million 00 buck?

25 million is only a drop in the bucket to what Obama is doing.

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public...&File_id=9cde768f-bb3a-4fd9-8176-1745c21519c2

 

Obama would love to count how many bullets an American's rightful gun can fire automatically, meanwhile he provides anti-tank and anti-aircraft hardware to the same guys that knocked over the Twin Towers. The guy proliferates weapons around the world, including to some of the most brutal dictators and terrorists there are. Obama will allow EVERYBODY to be armed to the teeth, so long as his offense contractor buddies get paid, everybody gets to be Rambo, except of course Americans who want to defend themselves against the real terrorist street gangs and such.. Don't let THEM have too much firepower.

 

Obama is not stockpiling all that ammo to kill Muslims or illegal aliens.

He plans to kill Americans with it.

And 250 million rounds will kill a lot of Americans.

 

I hate to believe this, but as I said, I'd like to hear a better explanation, which the USA can't even provide (yet the explanations they do give are easily debunked BS).

The NSA collect the dirt on everybody, and prioritize people based on political dissent level, to make a list of whose doors to kick down first in the event of a purge. Obama can not just assassinate Americans willy-nilly with no due process, but also detain them indefinitely with no charge or trial (only the congress have the constitutional authority for quashing dissent), and also he is getting armed for domestic war, with more and more "training" of US forces in US civilian areas.

If Obama intends no turnkey dictatorship, why does he lay the plans for turnkey dictatorship? Why even make it possible, for any future president, whoever that might be, when the Constitution clearly states such is meant to be impossible.

 

How so?

It is a true statement and quite legitimate.

 

Well said.

Lib cheerleaders for obama should be careful what they wish for.

 

Good grief.

I will wager anyone on the forum, 10 - 1 odds in your favor that this is all BS.

 

If cows could vote, it would be different.

 

Not BS.

Source

 

Excuse me, I was referring to the take over, or the martial law idea, et al.

 

Ah... According to the solicitation, it appears to be going to the border security guys, and over 5 years. I wonder if they fire 3,000,000 shotgun rounds per year down there. That's over 8,200 rounds per day! And if not, what do they intend to do with the surplus?

 

Well again, I have read this BS before. The day Pres Obama took office, the BS gun confiscation took place, and all you yahoos have done is driven up the price of everything.

 

250 million rounds is a lot of ammo.

That much firepower in the pockets of his paramilitary force could establish a dictatorship with the stroke of his pen and a telephone call.

 

Then take up my wager

 

So it's OK for millions of citizens to be armed but not the federal government?

Doesn't the constitution apply to the federal government?

 

The folks in Indonesia will be quick to tell you, if you see the ocean disappear, it's time to head for the hills! For the casual observer, the DHS stockpiling can reasonably be viewed as 'the ocean disappearing', in that they must be preparing for something (unless this is just normal consumption levels for them, training, etc). Are they stockpiling it to defend us, or to defend themselves from us? It has to be one of the two.

All crazy conspiracy theories aside, one has to wonder what they intend to do with all of that ammo.

 

Why don't you answer my posts? Why make a turnkey dictatorship possible? What's the other reason for this use of taxpayer funds?

 

This isn't the argument. Nobody is saying the federal government may not be armed at all. As for me, the federal government have spent taxpayer money on making turnkey dictatorship possible. Why spend the funds and why make it possible?

If you don't like a conspiracy-theorist to speculate why, then please offer an alternative to believe instead. Like why spend money on the FEMA camps with nobody in them?

Of course the constitution applies to the federal government, who will not obey it.

 

You already lost that bet.

The Obama paramilitary forces bought 100 million rounds in 2012 alone.

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public...&File_id=9cde768f-bb3a-4fd9-8176-1745c21519c2

 

So, you have no answer as to why our government needs 25,000,000 shotgun rounds. Do you think that they are using 8,200 rounds every day to practice with? If they were shooting 8.200 rounds at illegals and the terrorists that are crossing the border every day the illegals here now would be turning themselves in and we wouldn't catching so many ME muslims that speak perfect Spanish at the border.

The DHS says it needs 25M shotgun round and over a billion 9mm rounds and that isn't counting what the other government agencies have ordered.

BTW I have a lot of 3" 12G slugs and they are no fun to shoot so the DHS isn't going to practice with them when they can use the less powerful 2-3/4" #1s that are fun to shoot and are just as good for practice.

I think that the BH Obama gang just like to spend money and like driving the price of ammo up.

When in the history of our country has our population be so fearful of the government that they are buying ammo as fast as it is being produced? It isn't because BH Obama and Holder thugs are racists it is because they are racists tyrants.

 

Are you at all curious as to the reason behind this massing armament?

My theory: Obama isn't stepping down in 2016 and he is building his Schutzstaffel in the event the people revolt.

 

Who said anything about giving people free stuff?

 

Indonesia has nothing to do with this issue. If you are so sure, make the wager.

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First response from you on this thread. This is more BS. I suggest you and your ilk get a grip on life, and realize your science fiction can never come about.

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When is this takeover going to happen, that is the wager.

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No I don't have to answer. Your ilk has been spreading this BS around for over 5 yrs and yet one prediction has come about,.

 

A single round of any sort fired on the border brings on screams of alarm and unending calls for investigations into the heartless border patrol.
The notion that the Border Patrol needs even a tiny fraction of 8,200 rounds per day is too absurd to even contemplate.

What is really going on with the DHS?

 

If you cannot understand the simple analogy I have no hope of meaningful debate with you. Further, I have presented no theories on which to wager. I've merely posed the question that any rational person should be posing: If this ammunition does not reflect normal consumption due to training, then it is being stockpiled. What is the purpose for this stockpiling?

It can be only one of two things:

1) DHS is preparing to defend THE PEOPLE against something they think is likely to happen, OR
2) DHS is preparing to defend THEMSELVES against something they think is likely to happen.

Which do YOU think the reason is, or do you have another theory?

ON EDIT: I have presumed above that the DHS's intention for this ammo is a defensive one.