DHS ordering 15 million shotgun slugs and 10million 00 buck?

What BS did I spout? Name one false claim I made. If your reasoning for why you won't supply any alternative to the theory you claim is ridiculous is that I said something false than point it out.

The FEMA camps, NSA data grab, legislative changes to undermine the very protections designed to prevent dictatorship, narc programs, etc. are very real, and they use taxpayer money to fund them. Why? Why build big detention centers? Isn't there a more pressing need for the funds? Is the indefinite detention of even American citizens without congressional approval or judicial charges so implausible that the USA had to make it possible?


Why give somebody a fork and a knife and a napkin, just to insist you'll be serving no dinner and they're silly to have thought otherwise?

I think it's ridiculous that you scoff at the suggestion that the feds might actually use all those bullets one day, while failing to state why else they need all those bullets, or even name one possible scenario when so many bullets might be required. Surely they must have thought of some possible scenario where that many bullets are needed when they went and bought that many bullets. They'll never use that many bullets!! Yet they bought that many bullets.

You tell people that the reason they come up with as possible for why that many bullets might be needed is impossible. But no other reasons are provided.

 

Yeah I do have another theory, you are a paranoid delusional, and have over reacted.

 

Customs & border people probably trains alot with this ammo for our borders, who knows they might even use it once in awhile. crazy thought. i think the FBI might too.

government contracts also have a 4+ year life of deliverables, these bullets arnt delivered imeadiatly and stockpiled.

 

Evasive/deflective. I have posed logical, reasoned queries that are neither paranoid nor delusional.

IF the DHS will not expend 8,200 rounds of shotgun ammo per day for the next 5 years of normal operations, THEN they are stockpiling ELSE this is a normal purchase.
IF they are stockpiling, THEN they must be preparing for something.
IF they are a defensive force (which is their charter), THEN they are preparing to defend against something.

And so what is the reason for this purchase of 25 million rounds of shotgun ammunition by the DHS, in your opinion? I think that's a fair question. Are you of the opinion that this quantity is standard consumption for the every day operations of the DHS? If so, then this obviously is a non-issue for you.

 

This sounds like another job for our media to shed light on!

Wait Benghazi? Fast and Furious? IRS targeting conservative groups? VA? NSA? GSA?

Never mind!

 

That is your amended wager after your first one went bust.

Or maybe you just forget to be specific enough the first time.

Anyway 250 million rounds is way overkill if Der Fuhrer just wants to go deer hunting.

 

What about the FEMA internment camps? Is there any possibility those might one day be used?

 

Dishonesty and divisiveness. Those are the two "go to" levers of the GOP. They never tell the truth, and are at war against their own nation.

 

In lefty land, objecting to an executive branch domestic agency (not the army) buying enough ammo to kill hundreds of thousands of people is exactly the same as advocating that the entire federal government should be disarmed. Lefty land ~ logic land.

But really people, they need this much ammo to get Peter Sellers and George C. Scott into the bunker with all the Victoria Secret models. Can't have any of -us- trying to get in there, would spoil the fun!

 

That's a rhetorical response not an answer and BTW the same can be said of democrats.

 

Don't you believe Obama has stockpiled 250 million rounds for his domestic paramilitary forces?

 

Don't worry probably just a few good ol boys going hunting with Cheney, hehe.

Don't forget these are so called Americans, like the SS were Germans.

 

any day now. i know because my knee hurts.

 

It's also one of the great advantages of so-called "big government". By buying in bulk, they save the taxpayer a lot of money.

Of course the GSA is already in place to make such bulk purchases. Why George W. Bush's biggest bureaucracy ever is behaving like a separate, shadow government that answers to nobody is worrying.

 

yes news of the existence of B613 is troubling.

 

Of course it's a fair question. And since unconstitutional legislative changes are being made, and taxpayer money is being spent (even the amount is secret though) this makes them not just fair and obvious questions, but necessary questions too.

Nobody has any clue. I've asked the question continuously but they can't answer. They want to insist like the very real possibility suggested by "conspiracy-theorists" is not just impossible, but they are delusional to even think of it, while at the same time offering zero plausible explanation for anything different. Not even the OFFICIAL reason! There is no official explanation that's better, if at all. So it's all for no reason, then? Not just waste taxpayer funds, but trample the Constitution, just for the sake of it? (I wouldn't put it past them) All you get are Pavlovian sheep, who have no answers themselves, making trite jokes about tin-foil hats, and making vague assurances that the wolf who guards the chicken coup would NEVER eat one of the chickens, even though the wolf has already been eating chickens and the key to the chicken coup was given away to the wolf. They say it's delusional and impossible, but won't suggest what could possibly stop it. They put a turnkey dictatorship in place, yet it's impossible for that key to ever be turned? What stops this, or any future president, from turning the key?

Not only could it happen, it HAS happened. The Constitution clearly outlined that whether or not a domestic rebellion can be quashed and by what means, and what constitutes "armed rebellion" or public safety requirements, and how it's different than legal protest, are clearly given to the congress. They weren't so stupid as to give ONE guy the decision of how and why the people may be oppressed, for obvious reasons. Yet this has happened. Lincoln did it. He suspended habeus corpus without precedent or authority., Internment camps were used in WW2. etc. These were executive decisions. Obama made many such decisions beyond his authority as well.

 

If you're going to quote my question, at least answer it properly. This is debate; you need to have more than just scoffing and summary dismissal.

Is it possible for those camps to be filled up? Can they be set to purpose by whoever is in charge down at the White House? yes/no..

 

So not only is Obama creating a bond bubble, he is creating a slug bubble now that his AR-15 bubble is collapsing. I will give him this, he does know how to create economic activity.

 

Der Fuhrer can kill a lot of Americans with 250 million rounds.

 

oh im sorry i didnt know you where serious. lol. no. these FEMA camps which have been reported by the insane since 80s-90s dont exist.

 

i look forward to all of these rounds being used efficiently.

 

With the incompetent people who rolled out the Obamacre website they might shoot each other along with people who fail to salute Obama.

It could get messy.

 

Ah...you must be in the wrong place. To discuss TV shows, please go to IMDb or some more appropriate forum.

 

Unfortunately we had to abandon that type of imigration system because of the rise of the welfare state. Open imigration, or open borders, can not coexist with a welfare state. If all you had to do was sign your name to become a citizen, we would have 1billion poor people show up tomorrow, and sign up for benefits the next day. A bankrupt country follows. It doesn't work.

If we were to eliminate the welfare state, I would be happy to support your push for easier and more open imigration policies.

 

That does beg the question "if the amount is secret, how do you know for sure that any money is being spent?"