Disney Executive Producer Admits to ‘Gay Agenda,’ ‘Adding Queerness’ Wherever She Could

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Women weren't even allowed to work outside the home so ALL parts in plays were filled with men. They just had the smaller, more feminine looking males play the roles of women and children.

    As recently as the the 1970s, all hell broke loose when Mary Tyler Moore was seen wearing trousers on tv. They never showed the toilet in any of the bathrooms on "The Brady Bunch" and "The Ambiguously Gay Duo" was a cartoon sketch on SNL that was considered "unmentionable" by my parents' generation.

    When I worked in Corporate America, I had my teams get recognition for doing things well. Instead of focusing on back-biting and pettiness, we "catch somebody doing something good!" And, with very few exceptions, people work better and smarter and more collaboratively if they aren't worried about getting chewed out for making mistakes. In fact, they make fewer mistakes and they own up to them.

    I don't understand why people can't find something positive about one another. People are basically the same. We all want to feel loved, safe, respected and know that we make a difference in the world. Take away the skin color, religions, nationalities, sexual preferences, no sexual preference and we all the same. I would go stark raving mad if I didn't find a reason to smile and purpose to make one other person smile per day. Life is hard. Why add to if we don't have to?
     
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    Grooming doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
    Telling children there are different kinds of relationships and love between people or being hateful and mean and telling children that it's cool to shame, blame, beat up and even kill people for being different?

    Which "mess" are you referring to?
    OK.

    I am the last person on the planet to exploit anyone but nice try. Personal insult goal accomplished.
    No, DeSantis is pulling the Orange Jesus card - pretend to believe the bullsh!t you people say is important to get your votes.
    There is a very important legitimate reason anyone with morals (not just on Sunday) would oppose it. It's wrong to hurt other people and hating people because they don't look, love or worship like you is the antithesis to what your "god" is supposed to be about. I know you all like to play fast and loose with which rules you want to follow but that one is kinda the Big One.
    It's difficult to take you seriously when you are spouting on about something which you clearly don't even understand which is generally the way these things work. You probably should educate yourself about what homosexuality, bisexuality, transgenderism and pedophilia are. Once that's accomplished, move onto understanding what "grooming" actually is because you are 100% dead wrong. The only way to combat ignorance is through education and almost all the information in the world is at your fingertips. I encourage you to take advantage of that. We need more people on the educated, informed, trained and mature side of the aisle.
     
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    I am referring to the Mosaic law which mandated gays be stoned to death (or pushed off a building). That law was was given when Israelites were wondering around in the desert for 40 yrs, with men women and children all together. Same set of laws also made adultery, false testimony, prostitution, idolatry, incest and many other things punishable by death.

    Its a thing of the past. Now we call teachers perverts, abusers and 'groomers' even when there is no evidence of them being any of the above. They have to be accused of such , because otherwise these these culture war laws would look fake (which they are).
     
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    Oh, sorry man. Another all-nighter. LOL

    Here's the part I don't get. Why is it that they kind of shrug off adultery, false testimony, prostitution, idolatry, incest and many other things punishable by death but get stuck on the homosexuality thing? I mean, percentage-wise, non-heterosexual people are nowhere near the numbers of those other transgressions. Even if we give Trump a pass on the nasty lusting after his kid, he eclipses the rest of those stats single-handedly! ;-)

    Do you have any theories on that?
     
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    Grooming doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
     
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    Adultery is awfully common, as is false testimony (oh, the Bible teaches God HATES a false witness) but its easier to talk about homosexuals, because it's one of the rare sins the accusers won't commit. Its also safer to gang up against them, because if you call out adulterers and liars, you'll probably unknowingly end up accusing your best friends and coworkers and they might disown you for 'judging' them. People judge those who don't have a voice to fight back.

    Its hypocritical as hell, and when people accuse teachers of being perverts, abusers and groomers (like people are calling them here), they might want to remind themselves what God said about false witness. Also, the teachers might find a voice and fight back against the accusers and I think they might find support if they do, because not everyone sees them as the enemy.
     
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    It allows anything that isn’t “age appropriate” to allow litigation against the school. It dies not require it be sexual themed or instruction and is not limited to young children.

    Have you even read the bill?
     
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    That's exactly what it is, grooming. No child should be exploited like that. In fact we should probably rename this as the "no child grooming" bill. Let's see then who really opposes such a bill publicly.
     
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    There's plenty of proof that some of them are exactly those things. That's not a blanket accusation against all teachers, just noting the reality of some of them.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there already laws against perverted teachers abusing children?

    Make no mistake about it, - this campaign IS a blanket accusation against teachers in general. No one said this was done because of few isolated instances. The whole argument was that it was necessary because the abuse was widespread / systematic.
     
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    “Latoya”?
    Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Yes, that makes sense. The part that is so heartbreaking for me is that when those that confuse or conflate the issues, the predators are still being overlooked.

    There is absolutely no reason on Earth that anyone should still be confusing "non-heterosexuality" and "pedophilia".
    There is absolutely no reason on Earth that anyone should be confusing "non-heterosexuality" and "grooming".

    The largest percentage of sexual assault and sexual abuse survivors are preyed upon by people they know and almost always the person is of the opposite sex (father, uncle, male cousin against a female child; mother, aunt, female cousin against a male child). The *key* factor is access and a level of trust. Therefore, all this energy is wasted on something that isn't really a threat to our children and until they get a grip on that, we are going to continue to have generation after generation enter adulthood broken because they were lead to believe the lie that their potential enemy looks, love or worships different than they do and nothing could be further from the truth.





    P.S. I find your posts to be very level-headed which is nice. I have been so frustrated trying to be "open" to hearing the other side out but it's impossible to make sense of some of it.
     
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    Yes, I've read it, and you're wrong about the highlighted part. The relevant paragraph of the bill says:

    There's nothing there banning books, or "discussion", or mentioning of one's spouse, or any of the various other lies that have been told. The bill bans "classroom instruction" on a couple of topics for young children, and says that it must be age-appropriate for older children.
     
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    It seems clear the sole purpose if these laws is to sow more division. Trying to equate gays with pedophiles and calling them prevents and degenerates and accusing teachers of abuse and grooming proves that it succeeded in dividing people further. Anyone who tries to defend teachers or gays gets labeled as pro-abuse, or evil or what not. Its sad when politics does this to people. This is why I cannot support populist politicians. They believe that division is a way for them to win elections, and it may be so, but it does lot of damage to the nation as whole.
     
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    And we don't want them recruited to be such.
     
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    They are seduced by perverts.
     
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    It must be “age appropriate” for students of any grade, we have agreed on that portion. If it is not deemed age appropriate (by who — administrators of the bill and judges) it allows the parents to sue to school directly.

    Can you now admit that there are administrators in the State of Florida and Judges in the state of Florida that will deem any discussion or materials including anything related to homosexuality not age appropriate even in grade 12?
     
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    There is no need to ban healthy displays of affection, only the perverted ones.
     
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    Dr. Elders was lambasted and fired for daring to suggest that teenagers are taught about sexually transmitted diseases and the proper use of condoms. A bunch of stds running rampant and kids having kids is just fine but don't dare talk about <you know> (and that's heterosexual content). Too much information never hurt anybody. Ignorance has and does. Constantly. <smdh>
     
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    It means claiming other people's kids.

    This is because gay people cannot have kids in a natural way so they wish to claim others and raise them as they see fit
     
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    No, not directly. The bill outlines that a school must establish procedures by which parents can notify the principal about a concern. Then the school has up to 30 days to resolve the concern or notify the parent that it remains unresolved and only then, after those steps have been taken, does the bill provide a route for the parents to sue the school.
     
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    I haven't seen any evidence of that. What evidence do you have to support this claim?
     
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    Yes. When it comes to gun control are you satisfied by the "there are already laws against murder and robbery and domestic abuse"-type arguments? Do they mean that all gun control is superfluous in your eyes?

    I have no idea how widespread / systemic it is. I only contend that it is more than zero and less than "all". Do you have a sense of how often there is classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in Florida K-3 classes, or of an age-inappropriate variety for older kids? Because it seems like you're contending that this rarely happens, in which case I'd respond that if that's true, then this bill should change very little, and the opposition to it seems misplaced.
     
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    You haven’t seen evidence of any judge or politician support banning books that contain LGBT characters?

    Here are just a few legislators pushing such legislation: https://thehill.com/changing-americ...e-only-state-with-a-dont-say-gay-bill-15/amp/

    Which goes as far a book banning for any that include discussion of homosexuality to banning anything that even addresses LGBT topics to making an classroom materials depicting “homosexuality” a Class B misdemeanor

    I really wish people would just be honest about what this has the intention to do and the reason it was worded the way it was. It is hard to have any meaningful discussion when people continually feign ignorance.
     
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    Sure, but that's pretty much entirely a function of the vast majority of parents being heterosexual. The rate of child abuse among homo- or hetero- parents would be a more insightful comparison.
     

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