DNC strategy 2012: winning With Out Whites (WOW!)

Dear, I really don't care whether or not you think I am an hypocrite, because I KNOW whom and what I am.

I do not believe the Democratic party is racist (although, as I have stated, some racism exists in every group).

And I believe the OP was based on an OPINION piece in the NY time. . .no research, no facts were provided. The GOP and the GOP followers in this forum are jumping on this OPINION piece as if they had discovered a deep hidden secret that is proven! Funny, really.

It also seems pretty evident that it is the Democratic party who is willing to defend the Unions which, I don't believe are made up of only Black workers!

 

For the goodies and a tea spoon of their white guilt Tonic.........



Hillary's white guilt Tonic, bound to cure white guilt and the Gout.....and just about anything that rusts....


TRUST HILLARY'S........Nobody else does....

 

there is legitimate guilt to be felt, she has the medicine (welfare) for it

 

Is that why your party is the group that promoted slavery, opposed the Civil Rights Act, and gave us the Klan? You think pandering for votes by offering free money to minorities wipes all that away?

MOD EDIT' Personal attack removed.

So, in other words, you didn't read the article. Got it.

The union bosses are in bed with liberal politicans, who are willing to grant them more and more favors and power. The working class who are forced to join unions are still, by and large, Conservatives.

 

Funny you should say that, when you believe that all the evils that were done to Black people over the centuries should be "forgotten" and "moved past it" because TODAY slavery and open discrimination "no longer exist!"
But. . . although NO ONE in my family lived in the US until 40 years ago, and therefore I am not at all responsible for ANY of the evils that were done by "Democrats," or "KKK," I do feel that, as a country, we are still carrying the responsibility of those years. . .And, while "blaming our ancestors" is non-constructive, helping to resolve the remaining inequality of races TODAY is constructive. Unfortunately, it seems like TODAY, it is the GOP that wants to sweep all that under the rug of time, and the Democrats who understands the weight that too many Black citizens still carry from being subjected to slavery, then treated as third class citizens.

You are expressing your personal opinion, even if you are doing it as a personal attack that will be reported. And I trust that there will be people who agree with you, and there will be people who will understand where those attacks come from. . .

Yes, I did. This is why I KNOW that it is just an "OPINION" piece, and that there are no fact to demonstrate that, as so many of you are so excited to claim, the Democratic Party wants to throw White workers "under the bus!"

As I said before. . .it is not the Democrats who are attacking UNIONS!
And it is not the Democrats who are attacking minimum wage. It is not the Democrats who are trying to throw the teachers, and firefighters, and police, and the health care system "under the bus!"

I believe that "actions" speak a lot louder than words. . . and the actions of the GOP clearly favor the top 2%, and throw the rest (of every color, and every creed) under the bus. . .

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Obviously the Unions are more likely to support liberal politicians . .because they KNOW that, without the liberals, the GOP would have already reduced the union members to low wages, no benefits, and no voice in the political process. Let's see what happen in Wisconsin with this "new" Governor hand picked by the tea party!

 

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America no longer produces the excess wealth needed to fund reparations to African Americans. What you are talking about is taking assets from white people and giving them to black people because the pie has stopped growing. That is going to cause division. Don't you see that.

If you love America don't foster civil war. Civil war will come if the left attempts to redistribute assets from the white middle class to the black underclass.

There is no way out of agony for the black underclass unless the economy is vibrant and growing. The economy is not vibrant and growing.

 

Is that why leftys hate herman cain?

 

America no longer produces the excess wealth needed to fund reparations to African Americans. What you are talking about is taking assets from white people and giving them to black people because the pie has stopped growing. That is going to cause division. Don't you see that.

If you love America don't foster civil war. Civil war will come if the left attempts to redistribute assets from the white middle class to the black underclass.

There is no way out of agony for the black underclass unless the economy is vibrant and growing. The economy is not vibrant and growing.[/QUOTE]

Once again, YOU are the one making a difference between "White people's assets" and Black people!

I didn't say we should take "White people's assets," I said that, as a society, we should try to lessen the inequalities (i.e., high unemployment, and poor growth potential) that exist for Black people by increasing (by 3% on incomes over $1 million) the taxes paid by the very wealthy. . .

Among those very wealthy, I believe that (although a minority, once again) there are ALSO Black people. I am not preconizing increasing tax ONLY on the wealthy "WHITE," but all super wealthy people, no matter what their race, religion, or sexual preference!

I AM NOT bringing race into that issue! Those taxes would benefit EVERYONE who is unemployed, or falling through the cracks. . .I am admitting that more Black people are in that situation, so you can argue that this would benefit Black people more. . .but I'm pretty sure they would themselves prefer to be in the "minority" of those who need work, than the majority!

By the way, I never talked about "reparations," but if any reparations were due, there has been decades of "vibrant economy" to do those reparations. . .but nothing happened!

And I certainly don't foster civil war! Not even class warfare! In fact, class warfare has been waged on EVERY ONE in the middle class for the last 30 years. . .and the very wealthy have been winning for the last 30 years!

And now, that we point out to the fact that the wealthy are getting wealthier and the poor and middle class are getting poorer due to the government support of the wealthy few. . .you cry out that it is "class warfare?"

Where have you been?

 

Who said "lefties" hate Herman Cain?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lefties will not be voting in the primaries. . .so it is up to "Righties" to decide if they want to elect Cain or not!

Actually, I believe most "Lefties" would be VERY glad to see the GOP elect Cain as the GOP Presidential candidate!

We LOVE Cain. . .as a GOP candidate!
But, let's face it, it is not the Left who enticed those women (Republican women) to come forward.

It is not the Left who made a fool of Cain when he "tried" to sound intelligent about Libya!

It is not the Left who answers the polls that show that Cain is done!

If we had ANY involvement in all this, we would be MORE THAN HAPPY to get him elected as President Obama's challenger!

 

Herman who?

Per the silly op, winning - the operative word. Thank you!

 

Lefties did all the damage when they elected Barack Obama. It's time for them to sit back and watch conservatives clean up the mess they made.

 

I respect that this is your belief!

It is not mine. . .and I believe that Bush and the GOP did most of the damage during his time in office.

Why would we sit back and watch another brainless, all for the top 1% greedy politician go back to the policies that got us here to begin with?

Sorry to disappoint you, but a Republican (or pseudo-republican) may win the next elections. ..but it won't be because we "sit back and watch conservative make a bigger mess!).

 

Well, one good thing will definitely come out of having a conservative in office. There'll be no more demonization of ANY race to gain political points. That's strictly a liberal strategy... and one that is failing miserably.

 

local laws indeed, not everywhere.


that was the obscure point I was trying to make and you helped out nicely.


Also, show us the centuries old black person that has been oppressed.

you glossed over that one

 

Not them it doesn't.

So it's okay to basically play a race war with politics? Pandering and appeasing is okay? Political correctness is okay? This is a bunch of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) if the DuNCe party is really going to do this.

Ah yes, the party of racial pandering and the founding party of the KKK, no, no, the Democrat Party doesn't care about race. No.

Well, he didn't learn his place and stay under the thumb of liberals. He actually took responsibility for his life. Now the left is on a crusade to assassinate his character.

 

show us one black person that was subjected to slavery

 

Sadie,

You can't tax the super wealthy except to the extent they allow it. Why? Because capital is globalized. They are already moving their capital out of the United States.

That means the only source for increased taxes is a group primarily composed of White conservatives who own shops, practice law, dentistry, medicine, etc. They are small business people. They are the only ones who can't escape higher taxes. They are the real target of leftists.

How important is it to you for America to remain a single polity? If you are able to achieve your objectives, conservative America will sandbag the US. That's the price you will pay in order to fund reparations to African Americans and to pay the unfunded defined benefit pension plans of public sector union members.

Do you think we can't sandbag the country? Look at Green Energy development as an example. It's being strangled to death. There will be no co-existence with us. Think it over.

Why would we do so? Because the left seeks to alter the existing balance between individual liberty and equality. Individual liberty is part of the Social Contract enshrined in the US Constitution. Equality of OUTCOME is not part of the Social Contract.

America is sailing into a perfect storm. It won't survive in any recognizable form if half the American people lose faith in its legitimacy.

 

I was trying to respond to SMW. Sorry you got in the way, sonny. Context much?

Spoken like someone who's party is about to lose.

 

So (*)(*)(*)(*) the country your team has to win. Thats all that matters eh?

Good to know that about you.... Sonny.

 

It's not a "race war," it's playing to your strengths. I personally think it's a mistake to punt the white working class vote but I don't determine strategy for the party.

Besides his inability to keep it in his pants, those on the left don't particularly like him because he's conservative. We all know how those on the Right are just in love with Obama, after all. Objectively, Herman Cain is just a terrible, horrible candidate. He doesn't know anything about anything. It's hard to run a campaign if you have nothing substantive to say about anyting.

 

If I am to feel guilty for what somebody's Ancestors did, shouldn't they about theirs?

Call it even,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I did..

 

Correct. That IS all that matters. I don't want to live in a Republican country.

 

Every American here should note the game that the right is playing upon them.

It goes like this;

The fact that democrats have for years supported things like just say for example, affirmative action, which are naturally a policy designed for the black race is now being used to describe the very democrats who support such measures as a racist.

Completely ignoring the prior intent of the word racist in this conext to mean something prejudicial and negative towards specifically black people they seek to re-invent the historical use of the word racist and now use racialist - meaning that thereore any policy that favours a race, is a naturally negative concept both for that race and other races.

Just so you know guys, we can all see what youre doing. So dont go thinking youre getting away with anything.

 

That's not the DNC's plan, so this entire thread is a waste of time. Just because you're not hostile to educated people does not mean you're "abandoning the working class". It's insane how people can both think the Democrats are buying votes with welfare and "abandoning the working class" at the same time. Insane.

 

Working class whites are the victims of liberal policies that the educated whites support:

1) Environmentalism which kills jobs in mining, forestry, and energy exploration and production.

2) Affirmative action, which causes working class whites to passed over for jobs and promotions as cops and firemen, etc.