Do Americans Have a ‘Collective Amnesia’ About Donald Trump?

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  1. gipper

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    His three main campaign promises went unfulfilled. Stop illegal immigration and get Mexico to pay for it. Did nothing. Better trade terms with China. Nothing. Drain the swamp…hahahaha, instead he filled his administration with swamp creatures.

    He may be an establishment psyop.
     
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    Mexico paid for it via trade agreements. The border wall was stopped by Democrats. Better trade agreements were negotiated with China. And tariffs were implemented as a response to subsidies for Chinese companies from the Chinese Communist Party.
     
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    Excuses excuses excuses.

    Dumb Don was mercilessly and illegally attacked by Hillary, O, and the CIA/FBI. The FBI spied on him and he knew it. Yet amazingly he keeps Comey…then replaces him with Wray, who is also a never Trumper. Does absolutely nothing about Russiagate. Never seeking any retribution from those who lied about him and damaged his presidency.

    He’s likely an establishment psyop.
     
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    The facts I have stated are pesky things. They won’t go away.
     
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    Unfortunately Don sucks. He’s an ignoramus who got completely rolled by the deep state, he claimed he would eliminate.

    He did nothing to protect himself from the establishment or go after them for the illegal actions they took against him.

    Here is an excellent column that will get you caught up.
    https://open.substack.com/pub/donal...-of-politics?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
     
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    The deep state is more entrenched, more powerful, more unethical, more immoral, and more sinister than Trump or anyone else understood. The theme of your link is just that. Trump and I think everyone else expected at least some degree of honesty and ethical behavior from the US justice system. What we got is appalling. And it continues today.
     
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    It certainly is appalling. It’s also appalling to think the deep state would ever be honest and ethical. They’ve never shown any desire to be so. Thinking they would, is terribly naive.

    However it’s much worse than that. Trump did NOTHING to curtail the DS. In fact, he supported it by filling his administration with DS actors who hated and undermined him. He’s either a dumb f**k or a DS psyop.
     
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    Which DS’ers are you referring to?
     
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    Oh c’mon on man. You’re not serious. Do I really need to name them for you?
     
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    Yes, please do.
     
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    Pompeo, Wray, Bolton, Pence, Mnuchin, Mattis, Barr, Esper, DeVos, Tillerson, F**cking Nikki Haley, Acosta, Kelly, and so many more.

    Your welcome.
     
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    So you think just about everyone is the deep state? For example Betsy DeVos is a person of high integrity and ethics and is to be greatly admired for her work on the mess known as public education here in the US.

    Devos, Betsy . Hostages No More: The Fight for Education Freedom and the Future of the American Child (pp. 281-282). Center Street. Kindle Edition.
     
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    That’s all you’ve got?
     
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    That’s all that is needed to show your list is flawed.
     
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    So you don’t know those people I listed are DS actors. Okay. I just proved to you Trump is a fraud.
     
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    None of them are deep staters. But you are entitled to your opinion.
     
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    No it was things that happened in 2020 that you didn't like. None of it had much to do with Trump. 2020 was a better year than 2023. Why? Because we had a war free, prosperous 4 years, including 2020.
     
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    War Free in 2020 ? Is that what in alternative world’s history?

    USA was at war in Afghanistan in 2020.
     
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    No, it wasn't. There was no war happening involving us until Biden removed our presence. Thanks for your alternative history, though.
     
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    We were not at war with Afghanistan in 2020 ?
     
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    That is what I said.
     
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    Have fun.

    Not interested to travel to alternative reality to debate alternative facts.
     
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    And yet you are interested posting here.
     
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    Trump will not be merciful and let Americans forget about Trump.
    Of course, the sexual abuser lost the 2020 election (based upon the certified election results of all 50 states), did worse in '20 than in '16 (232 electoral votes vs 304)
    and is currently leading in an average of polls for 2024 by only 2%.

    At least, the Cry Baby Loser facing 91 felony counts is now consolidating his lies, and the concision is admirable.
     
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    Americans remember Trump very well.

    They remember the lower inflation

    They remember the lower cost of gas.

    They remember the more secure borders.

    They remember the no new wars,

    They remember no embarrassments like Biden's chaotic skedaddle from Afghanistan, arming the Taliban in the process.

    They remember capturing the ISIS Capital (Raqqa) and the ISIS largest city (Mosul).

    They remember the Abraham Accords.

    They remember Trump very well... and WANT HIM BACK!
     

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