Do you consider yourself a feminist?

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Are you a feminist?

  1. No

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  2. Yes

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  1. conservativeliberal

    conservativeliberal New Member

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    Yes or no and then offer an explanation if so desired.
     
  2. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Don't let talent go to waste. If a woman getting promoted ahead of a man makes him feel less a man, he probably wasn't really a man to begin with.
     
  3. conservativeliberal

    conservativeliberal New Member

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    I agree. Just because someone is of a certain sex or race doesn't mean they should be discrimated against based soley off of that.
     
  4. AndrogynousMale

    AndrogynousMale Active Member

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    I think a lot of feminist ideas are good, but the movement has really lost it's way recently. Just take a look at the way the feminists in the video below tried to silence a Men's Rights speaker:

    [video=youtube;iARHCxAMAO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0[/video]
     
  5. AndrogynousMale

    AndrogynousMale Active Member

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    You may have heard of this guy. He's pretty liberal, but generally anti-feminist. He makes some good points here:

    [video=youtube;Isl2SnRDb5s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isl2SnRDb5s[/video]
     
  6. AllEvil

    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    Insofar as feminism implies equality rather than privilege, sure.
     
  7. conservativeliberal

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    So by equal do you believe men and women are the same, or do you mean equal in potential value?
     
  8. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    I am a feminist in that I think women are also human beings and should be treated as such.
     
  9. AllEvil

    AllEvil Active Member Past Donor

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    The latter.
     
  10. STEVO1962

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    unless of course the man has more credentials and the woman still gets promoted just because she is a female, I think that is what actually happens and that is what makes the man feel like less than an equal human.

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    That is a Conservative randle not a feminist.
     
  11. leftysergeant

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    It has not been my experience that that has happened very often. I have seen a lot of bright women training some male dorks to be their supervisors, especially in the food service industry.
     
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    Being male I cannot be considered a feminist, I do however support much of the concept as I have a wife, sisters, and a Mother. All are female and I wish equality for them as much as for myself.
     
  13. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    I want the laws to be equal, that everything should be based on merit and ability rather than sex, and I don't like that women so often get raped, and I don't like that models are so unattractively skinny. That would make me a feminist in the eyes of many, but to me that's just common sense and it's just comming from my underlying liberal principles. I do perhaps fit in with the lighter of feminism, but I don't want to be associated with it because feminism is soo much more than just this. Often feminism is about taxes on men, women quotas, and unequal laws, and I despise those things.

    I get that modern feminists aren't trying to change how the state works, because it's already equal, but that they want to change the culture. I don't mind that, but I don't really care either. In my view, its up to the culture to change itself, and feminist are people like any other and thus part of the culture so they are free to do whatever they want in that regard.
     
  14. Unifier

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    Feminism is a cultural marxist ideology that has been steadily castrating the western world for quite some time now. I am an MRA (Men's Rights Advocate).

    If that didn't answer the question sufficiently, allow me to be more clear. HELL NO.
     
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  15. Dethklok

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    Yes, but it was darned hard to answer, for precisely the reason Wikipedia gives:

    Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.

    There is no one feminism a person can point to and say, "that is feminism." Old-style feminism, promoting rights for women to vote or work if they choose, and not be beaten if they don't want to, is super great. Modern feminism that tells women they can't be strippers if they want and that Isaac Newton's Principia is a rape manual is super crazy.
     
  16. mutmekep

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    I don't see the point of putting people in groups according to their genitals.
    A feminist? no but neither a sexist pig .
     
  17. USSR

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    Its a bit of an oversimplification ,as the Feminist movement has 3 Waves the first a suffrage movement for the Equality in Voting for Woman I agree with .

    2nd Wave of pro-abortion and birth Control the right of women to determine what they do with their bodies ,yep no problems .

    3rd wave Lesbian feminism ,putrid Middle class radical trash.

    Man Hating feminism as reactionary as Misogyny ,same coin different gender side.

    Sexisr as hell the Man hating 3rd wave feminists, self labelled Lesbian Rights movement.
    Nothing to do with Equality of women .
     
  18. USSR

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    Democratic Equality for woman and the "lesbian Activists " are 2 totally different things as you point out .

    Feminism = Man hatred as they say all men are Naturally women hating because society is Run by men ?

    Queen Elizabeth of England for example from the Lesbian Radical view is a Man in Drag Nutty stuff indeed.

    As well as no bull ,Lesbians rejecting being called homosexual because Homo can mean "Man " nutty indeed as Homo means same actually when used in relation to Biology as a science .
     
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    Depends on how far it goes. Voting rights and all that fine.......women in frontline combat....hell no. There is a distinction between having equal rights and being equal. Men and women are NOT equal. To claim otherwise is to ignore basic medicine and science.
     
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    To be a feminist means to be a feminazi, so keep them as far away from society as possible.
     
  21. Charles Nicholson

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    This "feminism" business is childish.

    Arbitrary conflicts based on anything other than morality only serve to distract us from ACTUAL issues.

    If we're talking publicly, women have the same rights as men, and often more. They often get more financial aid for various reasons from various levels of government when contrasted with male counterparts.

    Private companies have the inherent right to hire whomever they wish, and pay them whatever they wish, in whatever proportion they wish. I support the right of private organizations and individuals to exercise their rights freely.

    So no matter what way you look at it... it's a non-issue.
     
  22. RPA1

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    I will accept 'feminism' when females stop stereotyping and objectifying men.
     
  23. USSR

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    Crikey, excuse me but we do not have Medical journals for the differnet species called women and if you look at it the only difference is chromosomes.

    As far a socially ,all humans are equal before the Law ,and all citizens have the right to defend under arms their Nation.

    Joan of Arc could well disagree with you by the way ,and as far as problems on the frount line ,well hey if you are thinking with your penis at those times then you are the one who should not be there as your mind is off the job thus threatening your Comrades under arms in a War situation .

    The only women that would consider being combat troops of my acquaint are Lesbian ball breakers ,and quite frankly the less of them in the world the Better.As they are Man hating Woman extremely right-Wing in their Character .

    Perhaps not as they are total loony tunes .

    But, ordinary women who wish to should . Mind you if I was a woman I wouldn't as most do Not.

    Some tasks can't be done by women but that is Very Very Few ,as in punching 105mm shells into a Howitzer [great fun] and hauling 2.5tons of ordinance thru 3 feet of mud manually [not so much fun].

    But a drivers and logistics ect why the hell not as an army has many integrated parts. we all don't have to be Gun Bunny's or Grunts some can be helicopter Gunners and pilots and things.

    In civil War it is the responsibility of all to defend democracy as in Syria against the Muslim Brotherhood.

    In this case women have a VERY real and Present reason to pick up arms and fight .As they should!
     
  24. reallybigjohnson

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    I was referring to infantry. Don't have an issue with women pilots or drivers etc. Women simply slow down infantry though.
     
  25. USSR

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    Yes I see some problems in the traditional full battlefield Grunt .Or Airborne SAS . But as Infantry Militia ?! I see no problem .

    The Only "Feminist " types that would even be Interested would be the Butch Dyke Lesbians and as they would NEVER pass a Psych Test they can be excluded so as far as SAS Commando's I think that the Last Bastion's of Men Dying for Nothing and I refer to Afghanistan ,Vietnam ,and Iraq Particularly, I thinks us safe Bro'.

    We just Got thru the "first Feminist " Prime Minister of Australia, Julia Gillard ,and iher stinking Politics Had nothing to do with the lacking of a Penis. And everything to do with Supporting the Banks and Big business ,and then it got real weird and the Nation Stood up near as one and ,we have the Next Stinking Putrid Capitalist Politician.

    If things go Badly and the Australian Capitalist Government goes much longer then we may well have the first Lesbian Feminist Fascist PM called Penny Wong!

    Revolution either way I reckon!

    Watch out talk like this could get the Gay and Lesbian Mafia going !

    shhhh!:eyepopping::salute:
     

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