Do you consider yourself a feminist?

I agree with you here, except it seems like anything related to masculinity or men is considered a form of patriarchy. Ever notice how "Female Only" spaces are accepted and promoted by feminists, but "Male Only" spaces are demonized and blasted as patriarchal in nature.

Many feminists also say that it's bad that some job fields are male dominated, without considering that perhaps more men just enter into those job fields.

You can't make everything completely equal in terms of gender representation. It's just not gonna happen.

 

Female spaces? I don't know what that means.

 

It's basically places that only allow women. Many college campuses have these sorts of spaces. A more recent event would the Rad Fem (radical feminist) conference in London.

 

You are saying that men are not allowed to attend this conference. I believe that there are fringe elements to any movement. However, I do not believe these women hate men. I think it is something very different.

 

Perhaps not all, but a lot of them do. I think when people try to create segregated spaces, it's because there might be issues or topics discussed that only have relevance to the group hosting the event at that place. Rad Fem groups take it beyond just talking about women's issues and instead advocate for things like the genocide of men.

 

Why is feminism called feminism is they want equality? the word feminism kinda seems to hint at wanting to feminise things. When one hears the word 'masculinism' equality isn't the first thing that comes to mind is it? Wanting equality between the sexes stem from simple liberal principles, and thus I just include it in liberalism. There's no need to call oneself feminist when the name is so misleading, and when one could be associated with sexist racists.

 

This is why I call myself an Egalitarian. It doesn't focus on one specific group of people when discussing oppression or discrimination, but instead it considers all groups and their specific experiences.

I could never consider myself a feminist because it relies too heavily on the Marxist idea of one group (Men) having absolute power and privilege, and the other group (Women) having none. Feminism as an ideology doesn't consider individual experiences and instead lumps Men into one group and Women into another, and it's solution is to drag Men down to bring Women up.

 

No, definitely not, taking into account political demands by feminists. Just three examples, in cases of sexual violence, a lot of feminists want to strip the accused from all possibilities of a fair trial and want a change of the burden of proof. Not the prosecutor should prove the crime, the accused must be considered as proven guilty as long as he cannot present 100% clear evidence of innocence. Another example, the feminist Zapatero regime in Spain, which made laws with higher minimum and maximum sentences for males for specific crimes. Another example food aid in Haiti after the earthquake, in which there were clear instructions to gave food aid to women only.

There is no reconcilableness of universal human rights and feminism. One can be for universal human rights or for human rights for women only, not both at the same time.

 

Why hating men? To feel themselves better, simple as that. If they fake crime statistics in which 99% of all crimes are committed by males, they feel good to be able to state that there is and was no problem with them, they are moralically, intellectually and psychologically superior, the others (in this case men, but it works with any other group as well) are inferior.

I dont know what feminists you know.

 

But where is this country?

 

I don't know. If the US gets more libertarian I might move there.

 

I believe that men and women should be treated equally under the law, except for the cases that there are biological differences, when they cannot. I define that as feminism. I certainly want my wife to make the same amount of money as a man with similar education/experience in the same job.

 

Feminism consists of two words, feminine and -ism. feminine means of the female sex, withe feminine qualities and it comes directly from the latin word for woman: femina. -ism on the other hand is a suffix forming nouns of action, state, condition, or doctrine. Thus, feminism have three chief meanings which would be the state/condition of being womanly, the teching of womanliness, and the action to womanise.

My point is that for anyone claiming to be for equality, feminism is about as stupid a word you could pick to represent that.

 

Tomato, tomahto.

 

OMG! You have prick radar! Lord a mercy. I'll pray for you..

 

Are you some kind of nut freak? Dang, you sound like all their is to the universe is "your" experience. Go fricking figure! Geez Louise. You seem to suck the life out of the earth. (*)(*)(*)(*), mane, you go!

 

I don't pray for you.

And gee, what a good intellectual rebuttal of my post. Keep it up.

 

Why do people never asked themselves the question, why is all this gender and racial politics going on in this time of history as never before? This has a reason, namely the organisation of the population. Because the more fight in all kinds of (caused by politicizing) groups the easier to organize, the feminists have become movements aka organisations, gays have been organized, workers have the labor unions (organisations), gun owners have 'their' NRA organisation, etc etc. Every subject in society has been politicized over the last hundred years and dozens of organisations have been created. You don't have to wonder how people are going to loose their freedom (by all these organisations, including the biggest, politics, started by politicizing all social, animals, racial, sexe, etc subjects)

 

I try.

 

don't, please.

 

Please explain to me why?

 

Because the word is associated with radical racists and sexists, and because that same word doesn't stand for equality. basically

 

I disagree, I think it's painted that way by the media and there are a few extreme people in it, like anything. But on a whole, it's about equality for a group that has been abused. At least the majority of feminist I see/talk to are good examples of this.

 

It's like calling yourself a communist: not necessarily horrible, but associated with very bad people.

Also, note the name: feminism. does that sound like equality to you? Why don't you want to be a masculinist?

 

Because the way society is set up, we already are. It's different when the privileged group wants to have a movement.