Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

I argue because I want to see good double blinded studies with a large number of participants or failing that a meta-analysis or systematic review

 

I can offer you this with Burzynski's work, but I bet you will go back to quack watch, and spout that debunked garbage from the phase II trials.

 

My father died of cancer and my sister bought some so-called remedy before he passed away that was a "sure cure" for cancer. It was not only expensive but it did not work. I was not against it because we were willing to try anything at the time because he was slowly wasting away, and also because it wasn't his money.

Do you not think that if they had a natural cure for cancer it would be common knowledge?

Eating right may help keep a person from getting cancer...but once they get it...well.....

 

Watch this, and get back to me.

[video=youtube;0zBBfN5mQa8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=0zBBfN5mQa8[/video]

BTW, he doesn't claim he can cure cancer. He claims that Chemo and radiation treatment are about 16% effective while also causing cancer. Bruzynski has ranges from 25-50% effective treatments(depending on the cancer) while not treating you with a known cancer causing agent.

 

Sorry for the loss of your Father. I lost mine from the same.
Don't know what "sure cure" your sister had and honestly, respectfully don't care.
Like any health related issue if you wait for the last moment to treat it you'll most likely be too late. So maybe the "sure cure" might have been helpful but was administered too late.
In the Burzynski film pimptight is suggesting theres a case of a child that was treated with chemo and radiation with no effect on the cancer. The child was then treated by Burzynski and the cancer was cured but the childs brain was so severely damaged by the previous chemo/radiation he died anyway, cancer free.

Just trying to point out some things you seem to be totally dismissing. Watch the film, then decide how much you already know and believe. It will still be your choice.

 

Does the "work" qualify in regards to scientific rigour? Does it have a double blinded control? Are the participants chosen at random? What number of participants were there? What statistical methodology was he using?

 

((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))

Sorry for your loss

With some cancers that is true that we are still reaching for cures but we HAVE made medical strides and there are more people surviving these days so it is not the sentence it once was

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And it is a you tube with I am guessing an unverified anecdotal story

Remember that You Tube is advertising without any rules such as validation of claims...........

 

http://burzynskimovie.com/

 

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And it is a you tube with I am guessing an unverified anecdotal story

Remember that You Tube is advertising without any rules such as validation of claims...........[/QUOTE]


I'll agree we should all be skeptical of any claims made on you tube. Common sense, one not need be a scholar to be blessed with common sense.
Yet in my first post I asked anyone if they had any proof that this particular documentary was a fake. No one jumped up with evidence, anecdotal or otherwise.
While you being in the medical profession have far superior knowledge of medicine than I its apparent you haven't watched the film you are "guessing" about.
No medical curiosity? No willingness to explore possibilities not taught in school? As a medical professional why offer skepticism on a case you have not viewed?

Is there any wonder why the masses of medicinally uneducated in this world wonder if the medical elite are overlooking possible treatments through blind arrogance or graft?

 

I'll agree we should all be skeptical of any claims made on you tube. Common sense, one not need be a scholar to be blessed with common sense.
Yet in my first post I asked anyone if they had any proof that this particular documentary was a fake. No one jumped up with evidence, anecdotal or otherwise.
While you being in the medical profession have far superior knowledge of medicine than I its apparent you haven't watched the film you are "guessing" about.
No medical curiosity? No willingness to explore possibilities not taught in school? As a medical professional why offer skepticism on a case you have not viewed?

Is there any wonder why the masses of medicinally uneducated in this world wonder if the medical elite are overlooking possible treatments through blind arrogance or graft?[/QUOTE]

I am curious about many things. But I don't think the medical profession is overlooking possible treatments because of arrogance or graft.

You could say the same thing about many "conditions" that are terminal. I wish i could spell alsheimers....

 

If it only pertained to the West I'd think it could be possible, but the rest of the world would long ago have used a cure for their own purposes, particularly China, the Soviets/Russia and India with little or no regard to the interests of Western pharma.

 

Not sure what is meant by "natural" remedies, but I do believe the pharmacy industry does make choices based on profits more often than ethics. I'm not highly critical of the industry, the advances in medicine have without a doubt saved countless lives, and improved the conditions of countless others. However, like any other profit driven industry, I'm sure they mislead consumers on occasions and manipulate their inventories to suit profit margins. But large conspiracies to withhold critical medical knowledge from the public? I doubt it.

 

There is a great piece in the Burzynski movie explaining the resistance to the idea that washing your hands before surgery was needed.

The way they show the reactions of people from back then, and how they line up today with the skeptics who need no more information is very telling.

 

I am curious about many things. But I don't think the medical profession is overlooking possible treatments because of arrogance or graft.

You could say the same thing about many "conditions" that are terminal. I wish i could spell alsheimers....[/QUOTE]


Alzheimer's. You were darn close just forgot to add the German to it=) BTW the post you quoted from me was meant for Bowerbird. I messed up the quote feature.

Oddly enough my Father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. 18 months went by with little change in his condition. Suddenly in the course of a few days he went from a functioning individual to nonfunctioning. My siblings and I found through internet research that is very uncommon for an Alzheimer's patient. We scheduled an appointment with his Doctor. The Doc didn't even show up and sent his nurse in his stead. She had no concerns with my Dads sudden change in condition, "all is normal".
As a family we looked through his records and realized he never had had an MRI. We scheduled a private MRI within days of that appointment.

We went to the MRI as a family. Its a 10 minute ride back from the MRI. There was already a message on my Mom's answering machine. 'Do not take him out of the car. Drive him to the hospital emergency room, we've already called and had him preadmitted".
My Dad had three large brain tumors, not Alzheimer's. Call it arrogance, call it sloppy work, whatever. We learned as a family that day to never trust a doctor without doing our own homework also.

 

That's a good point I must say.
Of course that leads me to wonder. Just how interested are those countries in prolonging the life of their populations?

 

Yes, I'm quite familiar with medical professionals that do not require more information. The fact I didn't kick the ever livin (*)(*)(*)(*) out of one is a testament to my upbringing.

 

I'll agree we should all be skeptical of any claims made on you tube. Common sense, one not need be a scholar to be blessed with common sense.
Yet in my first post I asked anyone if they had any proof that this particular documentary was a fake. No one jumped up with evidence, anecdotal or otherwise.
While you being in the medical profession have far superior knowledge of medicine than I its apparent you haven't watched the film you are "guessing" about.
No medical curiosity? No willingness to explore possibilities not taught in school? As a medical professional why offer skepticism on a case you have not viewed?

Is there any wonder why the masses of medicinally uneducated in this world wonder if the medical elite are overlooking possible treatments through blind arrogance or graft?[/QUOTE]


It is certainly relevant that Dr. Burzynski is not the only physician who felt that the Texas Medical Board had a cultivated a "culture of intimidation and harassment of doctors!"

Could it be partly due to pressure from higher up that the TMB got into this mentality???


http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/19/cancer-doctor-burzynski.aspx

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Good point!

This is part of the reason why many promising products are tested in Africa or some other third world nation first.

Hey cool....I was just doing a search for some of the Africa studies on glyco-nutrients and ran into a lower cost source for them!!!

I also can't afford the mannatech products....so this is good news!


http://www.holisticjunction.com/articles/Glyconutrients-from-CoffeeBerry.html

 

Bowerbird.....you may or may not be correct in your assertions regarding laetrile....but I can't help but wonder what would happen if cancer patients were given at least some laetrile....along with Dr. Buryzinski's treatments?


I hit pause at 12:59 seconds in the film and I quote:

"FDA supervised clinical trial date for
Anaplastic Astrocytama patients:
treated with radiation and chemotherapy:
5 of 54 (9%) cancer free
vs
Treated only with Antineoplastons:
5 of 20 patients (25%) cancer free."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBBfN5mQa8

Oh....and the best part......NO HORRIBLE SIDE EFFECTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Bowerbird.....who are you bowing to???????????????

I asked a couple of good Christian souls who they were bowing to over in this discussion and I have to admit that I am wondering the same things about YOU?????!!!!!


http://www.christianforums.com/t7733762-3/#post62739236

E............a San Francisco police officer makes statements at 2 minutes in this film......stating emphatically that he personally has psychologically profiled Dr. Buryzinski as NOT BEING A FRAUD.....so what qualifications do YOU possess that you consider yourself a more accomplished and greater expert on fraud......than this decorated American police officer????????????????????????????!!!!!!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBBfN5mQa8
Dr Burzynski movie (Full Version) .flv With Extra Burzynski Links


....essentialsaltes....an EXAGGERATED accusation is a FALSE ACCUSATION!!!!!!!!



Exodus 20:16¶Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour

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Originally Posted by Mr. P....... View Post

Sargeant Rick Schiff states at two minutes in the film given in the opening post that he is an 11 year veteran of the San Francisco police department. He states that he has been decorated with the San Francisco's police forces highest medal for bravery.

People usually lie because they fear something.....so what do you think it might be that would cause Sargeant Schiff to either lie........or temporarily lose his ability to psychologically profile somebody?????!!

What do you fear Mr. P...... and is there perhaps anything that might be causing you to be less than intellectually honest with this subject?????

Could you be somewhat of a metaphorical.....collaborator.....in what could be compared with a holocaust on cancer patients????? Your post indicates that you are obviously far far far more of an expert on this topic than I am.....so who is either making untrue statements or being at least being intellectually dishonest.....you....or me ......or Sargeant Schiff????????


I have to admit that I am hopeful that the film is relatively true....and my own motives are not one hundred percent altruistic!!!! I suspect that the Dr. Buryzinski treatment has potential artistic value to me personally....so I admit that I am somewhat biased.....but I am attempting to be as honest about this as I can be in spite of what I would have to term my own "enthusiasm!"

In a way Sargeant Schiff is greatly responsible for my level of hopefulness that this treatment really is an effective one!!!! He is an astonishingly effective witness on this subject!!!!!!

 

I just happened to look up Rense.com yesterday to see what they were all about. And there was the claim about a wonderful Cancer cure that is being suppressed. Figures! Looks like that site is into any all all conspiracy theories you need to ruin a good day.

And where have you been Dennis?

 

What has being Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Callithumpian oddfellow have to do with critiquing research??

He could be a re-incarnation of the bloody Dalai Lama and his research would STILL be suspect if he has not followed the rules ensuring scientific rigour

...

REPEAT AFTER ME - JUST BECAUSE IT IS ON THE INTERNET DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE

The rest of this post is simply drivel - and nonsensical drivel at that

 

I read a pretty good article on Rense a few years ago regarding how we Canadians were almost seriously in error to have cooperated with the attempt to crush the American Revolution!!!!????

The article is not written in a scholarly manner at all...but it seems to be significantly accurate!!??

The comparison with the topic at hand is pretty obvious!!!!!

"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely." (Lucifer)

http://rense.com/general66/nobeyb.htm

America Created It's
Own Money In 1750
How Benjamin Franklin Made
New England Prosperous
By Congressman Charles G. Binderup
Copyright © 1941


…regarding as to who made the power corrupts statement first:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7715259/
NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.

 

So what do you think of these statistics Bowerbird?

I hit pause at 12:59 seconds in the film and I quote:

"FDA supervised clinical trial date for
Anaplastic Astrocytama patients:
treated with radiation and chemotherapy:
5 of 54 (9%) cancer free
vs
Treated only with Antineoplastons:
5 of 20 patients (25%) cancer free."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zBBfN5mQa8

Dr Burzynski movie (Full Version) .flv With Extra Burzynski Links

If those statistics have at least some validity...then so do my other comments Bowerbird!!??

 

I get the impression that this website does a better job of being objective than many of the other webpages I quoted.


http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-link.aspx?n=2594