Doctoral Student kicked out because she does not believe gays are born that way

Well Duh!

No kidding.

But I can remember with liberals used the argument that it was wrong to suppress free speech in the colleges and universities just because it was an opinion or thought that the conservative majority disapproved of.

Maybe libs know that allowing students to hear any opposing view to the homosexual agenda could undermine their position of dominance the way it did when conservatives ran the universities.

Yes you have a narrow legal right to censure thought and speech in the universities.

But is that want you want America to look like?

A nation of mindless drones who all think alike?

 

Well nothing stopping you from sending your kids to a Christian private school

 

Arguing that age of consent will change is nothing more than a fear tactic.

There is and has never been merit in that argument.

 

No I don't - but seeing as this is a private institution it's not a "1st Amendment issue", so there's not really anything that can be done about it, other than go to a school where diverse views are more tolerated. If it was a public school it'd be a different story, but the rules of the private sector apply equally to all private institutions, and employment/enrollment is "at will" for the most part.

 

Do schools teach about heterosexual marriage?

Why would they then not teach about homosexual marriage?

What would that difference be?

Answer:None, you just don't like one of them.

 

Not at all.

I'm merely rejecting the left's reassurances that the age of consent will never and can never change.

The same perverted logic that brought us gay marriage could just as easily lead to legalizing sex with small children.

Liberals can never be trusted to do the right thing.

 

Mmmhmm, sure it can.

Keep that fear mongering going, it does nothing but outline that your position is baseless.

 

Exactly.

It didn't take long to move from SpaceCricket worrying about the cops busting the bedroom doors of gays having sex to you and gays brainwashing small children in the public schools, did it?

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That's what libs told us when all gays wanted was the freedom to boink each other in their bedrooms.

The thought of gay marriage in 1970 was laughable even among most libs but look where we are now.

 

Time progresses so does society.

In the 1970's gays were fighting just to have fair and equal housing as well as equal employment, not to mention being jailed for what they did in the privacy of their own homes with consenting adults.

So what you're saying essentially evens out to "Those queers should just be happy we don't lock em up."

Ladies and gentlemen this is the kind of logic your trying to pass as "not hateful."

 

I was under the impression that you were mad that the Supreme court did did away with laws that banned gay sex in one's own bedroom. If you want the govt to have that kind of power then that borders on totalitarianism, so I had to point out the absurdity of that.

I don't think public schools need to be teaching children specifically about "gay sex" or "gay marriage". I don't see why public schools need to even mention the subject of "marriage" at all, since marriage has nothing to do with reading, writing, arithmetic or any school curriculum that children should be learning.

 

Finally we agree on something.

I don't care what disgusting things queers to each other in the privacy of their own bedroom.

If lib "progress" meaning teaching and promoting the homosexual lifestyle to little children in the public schools then I would like to return to the bad old days when gays were in the closet.

 

I think most people in society are more tolerant than you give them credit for.

In retrospect if gays had limited their perversion to the privacy of their own bedrooms then a surprising (to you) number of people would have been ok with that.

But that is not how the story played out, is it?

 

Where I live in Massachusetts Gay Marriage is legal and contrary to what many extremely religious folks said...the SKY DID NOT FALL! LOL!

Now I am a Heterosexual Alpha Male and although I would prefer not to have to view two Gay Men kissing I cannot for the life of me understand why some people feel so threatened by Gay Marriage?

Personally I could care less what two people of any sexual orientation do in their bedrooms and I can only see those who advocate Marriage as One Man One Woman as having no compassion for others rights at all.

Now I absolutely LOVE everything there is or exists as far as a WOMAN. In fact if I was born female I would probably be LESBIAN! LOL!

So I find it really funny when some people that I tell my personal feelings about Gay Marriage or Gay Rights sometimes react and tell me I must be a CLOSET HOMOSEXUAL! LOL!

Being extremely secure in my sexuality they can't seem to understand why such comments which they feel is an insult directed at me...does not bother me in the least.

Most people who engage in same sex sexual activity WERE BORN THAT WAY...and although it is true not all people are...either way I still could care less as I feel it is none of anyone's business.

AboveAlpha

 

Guess what?

To bad so sad.

At least your man enough to admit that your position is solely based upon personal hate.

 

Holy (*)(*)(*)(*), the double standard on this guy. I'd compliment him for having balls the size of small satellites were it not for how much his posts make my faith in humanity drop. Observe:

...Check out the thread; it's about a bullied high-schooler who got paid $65,000 in a settlement and had the black marks on his record expunged. Sec was convinced that the story about him being harassed was bogus. Why? Because we only had one side of the story. Sure, we had countless neutral groups reporting on it, and schools don't tend to just "give away" 65 grand or allow expelled students to return just because they'd rather not have a court battle, and the school had actively declined to comment on the story, but noooo, it wasn't good enough - we only had "his side of the story".

So now here we are, with a story about a woman allegedly kicked out of college. The story has broken on an openly and blatantly anti-gay site (and I couldn't find any collaboration from a real news source anywhere), and essentially all the information we have on the story is the word of the woman's lawyer. And somehow, this is not one-sided?! Somehow, this is trustworthy? Wow.

Sec, come on. Not getting any cognitive dissonance here? Not even going to address the complaints, I don't care if they're true or not. What I care about right now is how you continue to be a hypocritical liar. Cut that (*)(*)(*)(*) out.

 

Some people can't get passed the idea that if they don't like it it should be banned.

Really how does another couples marriage effect them?

Do they suddenly fall out of love because someone else gets married?

 

I don't hate homosexuals as long as they stay away from children.

But gays are determined to pervert as many kids as they can and that is wrong.

 

No, they were sued for breaking Oregon state law regarding discrimination against homosexuals. It is illegal to do that there. It was not some vague complaint, there was a very clear law on the books stating, "you cannot do this in this state".

Of a viewpoint all too often connected directly with a hatred of gay people.

Because it's a state law.

Hey, if the state this woman was in passed a law stating "You are not allowed to throw people out due to their opinions on homosexuals" then it would totally be a double standard. But as is? No, it just isn't. The school threw her out in violation of no explicit law, and the legal case is deciding whether or not the school treated her falsely.

 

"Doctoral Student kicked out because she does not believe gays are born that way ."


So this is a belief , not a scientific reality , it's nice to hear from their mouths , so they are aware of it is not something scientific.

 

Utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

You just admitted you would rather go back to the days were homosexuality was illegal and gays feared being found out.

You can't even keep your bigotry straight.

 

Naw...Your talking about Priests! LOL!

AboveAlpha

 

According to Wikipedia:

There is no consensus among scientists about the causes of why a person develops a particular sexual orientation;[1] however, biologically-based theories for the cause of sexual orientation are favored by experts,[3] which point to genetic factors, the early uterine environment, or both combinations

So there isn't "just one cause", and it's not purely genetic. Since experts themselves aren't even 100% sure of what the cause is, I think it's pretty petty and PC to 'punish' the student just for having the view that gays aren't 'born that way' - still a private institution really has the ultimate say in a case like this.

 

Not all people who practice same sex sexuality are born that way. But the vast majority are.

I know for certain that there are many Gay Men and Women who are so due to bad experiences with the opposite sex. But still...whatever or whoever a person either want's to be or whant's to sleep with is none of anyone elses business.

At the same time even though I don't think this issue has anything to do with the possibility of child abuse...it is IMPORTANT for a child to grow up with both a Mom and a Dad.

Now given the option of having either just one parent or two parents of the same sex that love the child the two parents would be better but all efforts must and should be made to make the child aware that the activities of their Gay Parents are not the only way that child should see and understand human pair bonding.

Now being a very Heterosexual Alpha Male I could not imagine growing up without my Dad. As well I couldn't imagine growing up with two Dads or Two Mom's...but if I was born into such a situation as loving as it might be there will be effects to my emotional and psychological development.

AboveAlpha

 

I have to wonder the cause here.

I very much doubt a university would expel her simply because of her belief that gays aren't born gay.

There would most likely need to be other factors involved.

 

"Reality" proves both sides are willing to pander or flat out lie to gain votes and demonize their enemies.

Please note I said the "end" of the political spectrum. If you honestly believe the far right or far left are really more tolerant than one another then you belong to one of the two.
You keep up the delusions though, maybe one day everyone can come back to center - but I doubt it - the division is increasing not decreasing with fools on both sides screaming "my side is right!"