Donald Trump Acknowledges Not Paying Federal Income Taxes for Years

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's called envy and jealousy.

    So what percent of income taxes should the top 1% be paying and what percent should the lower 47% be paying?
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Instead of investing and risking his capital to start new businesses which creates jobs and buys products and creates wealth for lots of people?

    What percent of the cost of government is the top 1% supposed to paye and what percent is the bottom 47% supposed to pay. You say the numbers are out of wach and favor the top 1% OK then where should the percentages be to make you happy?
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much do you think Trump has paid in sales taxes, property taxes, and all the other taxes that he has to pay? My business does well every year. We pay a fair amount of taxes, but keep our federal taxes low because we have a lot of expenses and employees to pay. Still, we pay a ton of sales taxes, property taxes, and fees to the city, state, and even Federal government for the privilege of doing these things. My business is maybe .1% the size of Trump's, which means he likely pays 10,000 times as much in a year as I do in terms of those taxes and fees.

    Do you think you rival him on that scale, or are you not contributing enough?

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    Trump's business practices leave a lot to be desired. I'm not sure that I'd hold him up as a paragon of business virtue and what most entrepreneurs aspire to. On the other hand, these people denigrating Trump on his taxes are upholding people who have never produced a single thing and have spent their lives being tax parasites. They, as you say, enrich themselves at the public trough.
     
  4. MVictorP

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    In Trump's case, it certainly is riding the gravy train.

    It's clear that he only had one thing in mind when he threw himself at the buffet - himself.

    His comments about women, I can live with.

    His weaselling out of his moral contribution to this country he says he love, I cannot.

    I think it's way worse than dodging draft.

    It is a disdain of the middle class.

    How do you take the fact that you are stupid, if you do pay taxes? Do you think somebody should pay them in your stead?
     
  5. MVictorP

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    It's rather anger and outrage. Anger at being called "stupid" because I do pay my taxes and outrage for the weasel's pride in doing so.

    You ask me? As soon as one bags more than 100,000 a year, he should be taxed from 60 to 90%. Nobody needs that much money. But that's just me, the revolutionnary guy.

    What Trump had to pay was way below that.

    And before you ask, The Clinton are no better. However, at this point, they didn't imply that taxpayers were stupid.
     
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    If those same business goes bankrupt while the employees got themselves a home and a car on loans, their part of "wealth created" goes into the negative. The contractors Trump didn't pay (because he's wise, you see) are not swimming into new money neither. Besides, I don't know anybody rich after a trip to a casino. Do you?

    Big governments also create lots of jobs - more solid jobs than what Trump has to offer. So I guess you are for the biggest forms of government imaginable, are you?
     
  7. Gatewood

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    Hillary said that fifty percent of Trump's supporters belong in a Basket of Deplorables, and the Wikileaks spell it out that she has contempt for the average citizen, period. Yes, those Clintons are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than Trump.
     
  8. MVictorP

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    If HRC being worse/better than Trump brings you any solace in the tough years that are going to follow, then by all means go for it. Take refuge in your partisanry.
     
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    Do you have a link that says Hillary has "contempt for the average citizen," or did she not like using the phrase "everyday Americans" in speeches?
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    Way to go Donald! The Government will just waste it.
     
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    Another opinion from one of those people who has absolutely no understanding of business, taxes or money management; who assume that others doing well is the direct cause of him doing poorly.

    In order to write off a loss- you must have lost money you previously made. All that does is balance the taxes over the long term, it does not eliminate just taxes.
    Look up who pays the taxes, based on income grouping and you see that the top 20% of taxpayers pay 84% of the total tax taken in. You see that only 2.7% of all returns produce 51.6% of that total revenue. And, you see that 47% of Americans pay no income tax at all. Some of those are people retired and entitled- and some of them are just too damn lazy to carry their own weight.
     
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    I think there was a wiki-leak, a message from one of her advisors that says she has disdain for the average Yank - or something to that effect. Do you find it hard to believe? Really?

    (There is a thread somewhere about these wikileaks)

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    Yeah, like putting it in vets, mil forces and roads.

    That money's much better sleeping in the Don's coffers, huh? After all he's the one who got up every morning to abuse people.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    That is just the result of the envy and jealousy.

    The only ones who called your stupid are the MSM, Trump certainly did not.

    Not what I asked, of the tax revenues needed to run the federal government what percent of those revenues should be paid by the top 1% of earners and what percent should be paid by the bottom 47%?

    And do you believe it is the role of the government to determine how much income someone should have then take the rest from them?
     
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    I am not entering an infantile did/did not "debate". It matters little how exactly you chose to tag the un-acceptable. Whatever "sin" it is, however, it isn't of the kind that's going to cost you, the stupid tax payer, or your vets, or your armed forces a cent, that's for sure.

    No, Trump simply implied that those who don't pay taxes are not "smart" like him.

    Huh? This is a ridiculous, backward exercise. It's like shooting the side of a barn and then paint a bullseye where the shot hit. I can't be bothered to participate in it.
     
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    Yes, there is a Wiki-leak that mentions she didn't like the phrase "everyday American." The link in my post addresses that fact. The person I responded to posted that Hillary has "contempt for the average citizen." There is a big difference between saying Hillary has contempt for the average citizen and what Wiki-leaks actually exposed… that she didn't like the phrase "everyday American" in speeches.

    I don't look for things to believe. I look for facts… and the distortion of those facts.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    So this is a religious matter to you?

    ROFL so now it's "implied? No he did not imply that the MSM implied you are stupid. Take your complaint to him.

    No it is a direct question to your complaint the highest earners are not paying their obligations to fund the federal government. What is clear is that you don't know what you are talking about because you can't answer that basic question.

    And again. Do you believe it is the role of the government to determine how much income someone should have then take the rest from them? That is what YOU are implying htere.
     
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    Trump is "smart" to only pay the taxes he is legally required to pay. Who pays more in taxes than they have to?
    Certainly not a billionaire like Mark Zuckerberg, who pays lip service, at least, to taxing the rich more while acting in a decidedly different way when it comes to his taxes. http://usuncut.com/class-war/mark-zuckerberg-charity-scheme/

    If the government is suffering from a loss of revenue (it isn't http://freebeacon.com/issues/3-25-t...llects-record-high-taxes-in-fiscal-year-2015/) then it's up to Washington to change the tax code.
    The real problem isn't a lack of revenue. It's a government that spends money in a most wasteful and stupid way.

    And the ordinary tax payer is not "stupid". He or she just doesn't have the money required to take advantage of the tax breaks that billionaires have
    had compliant politicians put into the Byzantine US tax code.
     
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    His refusal to release his taxes because it is full of fraud and tax cheats. Trump is very specific he does not pay taxes he lie to you and to his hardcore supporters that he supports veterans, military, law enforcement, border security he does not support any of those because as he said he does not pay taxes and he is proud of that he is proud to be a cheater a sexual predator.


    His refusal to release his tax returns clearly show us that he is using other people's loses as his own to cheat in paying taxes.

    The IRS through Trump's one year tax return 1995 and Trump's continue refusal to release his 15 year tax returns has been determine and Trump does not deny he does not pay taxes he is under heavy auditing because of those cheats and when the IRS is done it will be Trump not Hillary that will go to jail.


    Trump's hardcore supporters don't care even if Trump is the devil himself, Hitler, Stalin or Mao they will do anything for him. Tax returns are the most reputable document that is why Trump refuses to release his taxes because he knows he will be expose.
     
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    Supposition does not subsitute for fact you know. When did the IRS, which has routinely audited him, charge him with fraud and violation of tax law?

    And do try to stay on topic and not go off on inane rants.

    Please show me where this is clearly shown in his tax return. And you do know his tax filing has not been accepted by the IRS yet so it is not final.

    They have audited for years, why is he not in jail then? Audits are not criminal investigations you know.

    Specifically what is it you think will be exposed that has not already been exposed in his 90 page financial disclosure document?
     
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    Trump not paying taxes is no supposition he admits it proudly. Trump will be charge very soon of tax cheats after the IRS is done auditing him that is why he refuse to release his taxes at the same time brags that he does not pay taxes and lie that he support veterans, law enforcement, military, immigration or anything that is America.
    He will be in jail soon for tax cheat and later for fraud with his Trump U.
    What will be expose is his official crime that will be follow with warrant of arrest just like Al Capone, Trump will end up in prison.
     

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