Donald Trump indicted on 7 counts in classified documents probe

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    Are you so ill informed you take a grand jury indictment as a conviction? Please tell me the MSM has not fried your brain that bad...
     
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    What is the basis for calling Milley a traitor? Both articles cited have him striving to keep us out of a needless war. Seems like a good idea to me.

    Nor does it blow the tape out of the water. Apparently there are witnesses to the events on tape. And they're still going ahead with it.
     
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    Are you so ill informed you take an indictment as an exoneration?

    TFG has admitted to most of the charges at various times. On all the major networks including FOX. The funniest bit is that he put his own nuts in the vise. Had he been able to shut up, he actually might have been able to skate. But he's incapable of keeping his lip zipped. He's his own biggest, most traitorous nightmare, throwing himself under the bus at every opportunity.
     
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    Welcome to America my friend.... innocent until proven in a court of law by a jury of your peers... Trump has not been proven guilty or innocent yet..
     
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    What war?
     
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    That is a legal principle, not one that people are obliged to follow in everyday life. Do you really think the Constitution robs ordinary people of the right to make common sense judgements?

    Innocence until guilt is proven means the GOVERNMENT can't exact penalties without a conviction,; ordinary people are not constrained in the same way
     
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    A war with Iran. Did you not read your own sources?
     
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    Bullshit.
    When guilty verdicts have come in all we hear is it's a Democrat jury, an Obama appointed judge, a Soros supported district attorney, the jury was afraid of riots, a juror lied, on and on and on.

    The court house custodian donated to Biden (lol)
     
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    It was Milley's made up war scheme... not Trump's.... Did you not read my sources?
    Please show us any proof at all Trump ever thought about attacking Iran...
    https://archive.fo/lcimq
     
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    First, your link is broken.

    Do you really think anyone's forgotten the drone strike on Gen. Soleimani in Jan, 2020? That assassination was an act of war. Look it up if you've forgotten.

    Here's a link for you: https://nytimes.com/2020/01/11/us/politics/iran-trump.html
     
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    No one claimed that a grand jury indictment is a conviction. Your need to make that up says far more about your position than it does anything else.
     
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    That's not what I posted, and nobody in their right mind would interpret anything I have posted in that manner. NB, I wrote "will prove", not "has proven".
     
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    It's war plan, not a proposal. The Pentagon has contingency plans up the wazoo; it doesn't mean they're proposing we attack everyone.
     
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    My link works fine.. your link is the one that is broken…. Pay sites are not allowed… but just so you can not read the link anyway
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/lett...illeys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran

    https://archive.fo/HCPi7
    Your NYT article is a story book with no proof of anything... it is typical Tom Clancy fictional fairy tale telling with no proof..
    How pathetic.... prove any of it... Does it not beg to ask...... How does the NYT get classified information leaked to them....


    Show us the document in the audio... we can see for ourselves..
     
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    The assassination of Soleimani was not classified, it was world news. The order to commit a casus belli would have come from TFG. But hey, nice try to move the goalposts. In any case the question was how Millie was a traitor, not how TFG wanted to start a war. You're going to have to provide a traitorous action by Millie, not disprove one by TFG.
     
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    How Milley was a traitor?

    " “General Li, you and I have known each other for now five years. If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”
     
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    Because avoiding war and misunderstandings that can escalate to war is baaad.
     
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    There no way you could have actually have that interpretation of a statement promising to alert an enemy of an attack.
     
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    As part of an attempt to dissuade Li from a pre-emptive attack.

    Or, to use the TFG Document Defense, he was lying.
     
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    Hokay, General,
     
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    What?

    Well you broke some news there! China was about to launch a pre-emptive attack against the US and we're still arguing trade policy with them? Tell me more about this near miss of World War III?
     
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    Apparently not. It has been extensively reported on.
     
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    It has not.
     
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    Walt Nauta is scheduled to be arraigned today.
    If he again claims he doesn't have a Florida connected lawyer the judge should appoint him a public defender.

    'Trump case, Justice Dept. unseals previously blacked-out portions from search warrant application'

    Source: AJC

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department on Wednesday disclosed some of the previously blacked-out portions of a warrant application it submitted last year to gain authorization to search former President Donald Trump's Florida property for classified documents.

    Key portions of the document had already been made public, but media organizations including The Associated Press had pressed for further unsealing in light of a 38-count indictment last month charging Trump and his valet, Walt Nauta, with concealing classified records at Mar-a-Lago from investigators. The magistrate judge, Bruce Reinhart, declined to order the Justice Department to unseal the search warrant affidavit in its entirety but did require prosecutors to publicly file a less-redacted affidavit.

    Many of the newly revealed paragraphs recounted how surveillance camera footage from inside the property showed dozens of boxes being relocated in the days before FBI and Justice Department investigators visited the home to collect records. During that June 3, 2022, visit, law enforcement officials were handed an envelope of 38 classified documents and told that all records sought by a subpoena were being turned over and that a “diligent search” of the home had been done.

    The movement of boxes by Nauta was detailed in last month's indictment, but its inclusion in the search warrant affidavit helps explain why the Justice Department felt it had probable cause to search Trump's home on Aug. 8, 2022, and why investigators were concerned that documents were being intentionally withheld from them.

    Read more:

    https://archive.fo/9vxQQ



    ... more on on Twitter.
     
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