Eric Trump: Dad started with nothing

Oh, don't get me wrong, there is nothing about my opinions about Trump that should be taken as an endorsement of the Clinton's. Bill's presidency was a mixed bag that I am lukewarm at best about, but Hillary Clinton has far too much baggage and personal credibility issues to ever be president. If she is elected, the next four years are going to be nothing but a rehash of every scandal, real and imagined(there is no shortage of either), and will be focused on nothing but the past. Hillary Clinton, even if she were perfect and had the very best intentions, will not be able to have a forward moving administration. She should probably be on trial for what happened with the emails, not protected from that by being a sitting president.

So I'm not saying you should vote for her. But she is to be taken as who she is, not who she is contrasted with the other candidate, which is exactly the standard I am applying to Trump as well.

Trump was not a nobody. He's been a public figure for over three decades which you can verify by seeing his appearances in the news, in the business world, and in various media and entertainment settings from those times. The history of who he is, the type of man he is, is quite extensive, because the two most powerful driving forces for the man are his cravings of money and attention. And when you have money, you can get the attention.

Right. Neither are going to do anything about it. Clinton has no personal motivation to expend political capital on it and displease her donors, and Trump has a direct personal and financial motivation not to. They're both (*)(*)(*)(*) candidates and I think the conversation should be about that, and not defending whichever one a person feels is slightly less poopy than the other.

 

See, the problem is Trump supporters don't see him as "poopy". And no, we are not dumb, uneducated, blind, ignorant and oblivious to his multiple personality-related problems and all his other baggage, the liberal/media smear about us notwithstanding.

But he absolutely correctly identified the issues ailing this country - immigration, horrible trade deals, outsourcing, absurd foreign policy. Dems did not identify them, Republicans did not either but Donald J. Trump did. He represents a movement, a chance at a major course correction. It's either this chance with utterly imperfect Trump now or never, the alternative is a permanent status quo, stay the course, full speed ahead towards the cliff with any other Democratic or Republican candidate, not just Hillary. We are simply willing to take this chance.

PS 70 year old presidents worry about their legacy, not whether their policies will increase or decrease their multi-billion dollar fortunes by a few percentage points. If elected he'll do what's right for the country, not what's going to increase his bottom line. He won't have a chance to spend even a fraction of what he has anyway

 

Voting for him out of spirit for a movement means nothing regarding what you'll get once he wins. I'm glad that folks are paying attention and want to shake up the status quo, but you do that with an outsider, not an insider. Trump may not be a real political player yet, but he's had money and he's lived in the same type of world for quite some time, above everyone else, disconnected from the realities on the ground. He has a solid financial interest in things staying the way they are. A desire for change shouldn't mean you swoon over the first guy to tell you what you want to hear in a slightly different tone, not when that guy is a man from the same exact world who benefits from the same exact things as the status quo you want to change.

And Trump is hardly the only person out there who could champion this type of movement. He simply capitalized on it at the right time, not even changing his methods from the last times he's tried running. The right people will stand up and begin to lead if there is enough support for them, and the support behind Trump shows that there is. You're all just putting it behind a gigantic mistake of a candidate. Your good intentions don't change a thing about what kind of a candidate he is.

That's pure wishful thinking. None of the presidents in the last 75+ years have been major players in the business world commanding the type of money Trump has for as long as Trump has, with the personality and media presence that Trump has. All bets are off as to what he'll do as far as following the same pattern as previous presidents. And with his specific personality and his business history, betting on him caring about what he leaves behind would go against a solid pattern of the opposite for most of his adult life. Tell yourself what you want I suppose, I don't doubt your convictions and what you believe he will accomplish or how important some of those things are. But I do have to question throwing your support behind this particular man out of desperation.

 

Its called leverage. The banks wouldn't have let him con them out of so many hundreds of millions of dollars if not for that $250 million.

But keep thinking that he is a business Messiah born in swaddling clothes.

And $1,000,000 is, and was even more so, a massive sum of money, especially when its coupled with a sweetheart job opportunity with daddy, who was a multimillionaire.

 

sadly many born with a silver spoon see life this way, remember Romeny saying the losers that could not afford school, should borrow from their parents..... many actually do not think like normal people

"Ann Romney's tale of 'struggling': We 'learned hard lessons' living off our stock portfolio "

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/...d-hard-lessons-living-off-our-stock-portfolio


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Trump is a bully for the sport of it, he would take candy from a baby, look what he did to business in his hotels and what he did to contractors and don't forget Trump University or his foundation .... or even his campaign which he funneled millions to his own businesses

 

What part of in 2000 he already had hundreds of millions (if not a billion) of his own money when he inherited 250 million don't you understand?

 

Fred Trump's estate was between 250-400 million.. He had ALZ so Trump changed his will and Donald pretty much screwed his siblings and all the grandchildren out of their share of the inheritance.

 

What part of the banks knowing he was going to inherit the money don't you understand?

 

Read the Art of the Deal.. Trump's belief is that if you can borrow enough money, you control the lender.

 

He had his own independent business and no bank would be able to collect one penny from his daddy if Trump blew the money and declared bankruptcy. Duh the mess and confusion in the minds of uneducated libs is nothing short of spectacular

 

Dude, if someone wins the Powerball Jackpot, which pays out over years, he could get massive loans, even though most of the money would be paid to him in the future and the spigot turns off if the person dies.

Banks aren't stupid. They will lend money to people who have, or will have money.

 

Because the powerball jackpot is his money, not his daddy's, certainly not some independent business's money.

 

I think the difference, from what I understand, is that Trump didn't file personal bankruptcy four times. It was four businesses filing bankruptcy.
Now people can draw their own conclusions as to whether that makes him a good businessman or not. Companies do go under.

 

Then there are those who win the lottery and end up broke. They didn't know how to manage their money. Being given a million dollars is no guarantee you will turn it in to a multi million dollar business.

 

I have no problem with him being born into a wealthy family. I have a problem with him being born into a wealthy family, getting generous loans from that family, getting people to bail him out from failed business deals, cheating people out of thousands, failing to pay his employees and contractors, making the majority of his money from branding, suing people who tell the truth about his business assets, funneling money from his charity (which he no longer even donates to) for personal use, stiffing taxpayers for a fortune, and then pretending to be anything other than the snake oil salesman that he is.

I love business. I love successful business people who get rich solving problems for people. I have no respect for this walking embodiment of corporate psychopathy.

 

Exactly, there were hundreds of developers like Fred Trump in Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island, Manhattan, they had thousands of offsprings.... and yet there is only one Donald J. Trump and libs here act like any moron can turn a borrowed million into a multi-billion dollar global empire.

 

Believe the idiotic rags to riches story all you want.

It is seemingly true he could murder someone in broad daylight and people like you would blame the victim.

 

Read the Art of the Deal.. Trump claims that if you borrow enough money, you control the lender.

 

Yet, fifteen dollars an hour for actually working a minimum wage job is too much to ask?

 

I thought Only socialists resorted to, "the Other Peoples' money"?

 

Its the rule for developers and then they take ten % off the top for their lifestyle... They call it "walking around money".

 

Donald's Trump's investments are so bad that if he had simply invested in an index fund he'd be worth more than 4 times what he is today.

And he can do the same for America!

 

The Clinton's sources of income are outlined in great detail on attachments to their tax returns. Every single source is listed. You know that because I've posted it and linked to it for you before but like all Trump sycophants you post the same lies over and over.

 

If he was inclined to do what is right for the country he'd be doing it now. Instead he's making his clothing in other countries, misusing foreign work visas to displace American workers and using charitable contributions for personal gain.

He's a crook now; just wait until he has the keys to the candy store.