Evidence: Barack Obama / IRS Attack on Conservatives Involvement

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  1. Montoya

    Montoya Banned

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    Always dealing in the hypothetical are we?

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    No they are not.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Yes the political side of it not the operational and administrative side.

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    Oh that is happening now, and since we have found out that none of the lower level staffers would tell the IG who ordered them to do what they did during his audit, watch the subpena's start flying.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Or just be complicit in in, with knowledge it was occurring and not stopping it? Yes how stupid?
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

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    There is no evidence that the targeting of TP groups amongst others in reviewing applicants seeking tax exempt status involved folks anywhere near as high on the chain of command as Shulman or were partisan-based.

    Mewling such substantiated accusations in the absence of evidence is worthless.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Of what? It was a meeting between the head of the IRS and the President and one of his chief political advisers, that prostitutes the IRS chief for being involved in such a meeting when is suppose to be divorced of political influence.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    So your position is there is no evidence of wrongdoing here? At all?

    Is it your position that no one at the WH had ANY knowledge this was going on?
     
  7. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Let's take a look at Issas' *Gut Feeling* on the matter ...


    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/06/03/irs-allegations-republicans-tell-issa-dont-make-it-personal/

    When Candy Crowley asked Rep. Darrell Issa what his gut told him about the IRS scandal on Face the Nation Sunday, he said, “my gut tells me that too many people knew that this wrongdoing was going on before the election, and at least by some sort of convenient benign neglect allowed it to go on through the election, allowed these groups, these conservative groups, these, if you will, ‘not-friends-of-the-president’ to be disenfranchised through an election.”

    Video ~ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/ns/msnbc-the_last_word/vp/52089777#52089777

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  8. Bluesguy

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    Why shouldn't one advocate legal tax avoidance? I believe it is clearly pure social welfare to advocate people only pay the taxes they legal owe and to show them how to legally owe as little as possible. It surely is not a political act.

    You do know that these groups even after receiving a 501 status can engage in political advocacy. It is not entirely prohibited, you only have to devote 51% of you time and money on non-political advocacy or education for social welfare.

    Which does not prohibit you from receiving it. You don't have to comply with the regulations BEFORE you receive the status, you have to AFTER you receive. They were not claim tax free nor telling donors they could deduct donations and didn't have to, that does not prohibit you from BECOMING a 501 which is what they were seeking.

    But do tell us how Media Matters is completely political free. How the NAACP is completely political free.
     
  9. akphidelt2007

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    Yes, there was wrongdoing. The list should not have been made and the head of the IRS was let go because of it. You are looking for a bigger conspiracy here. Somehow social welfare groups tax exemptions now involve a massive conspiracy to do what? You guys still have no motive, the only thing you have is a fallacy. It's quite possible the IRS employees target those keywords because there was many more of those keywords than the other groups. There's a lot of possibilities to why they wanted to create a list. The one thing you have yet to fine is that it was politically motivated at a larger scale. Absolutely no evidence links this to the WH or Obama. Just more desperation from the rw propaganda machine!

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    The IRS officials told them to stop it twice. There is absolutely no evidence of a coverup or a scandal. Just desperation on the part of the right.
     
  10. toddwv

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    Well, apparently two things come from the gut. Fecal matter and Issa's evidence for the fecal matter that he's spewing.
     
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    We are supposed to believe that little fish cooked this up on their own in Cincinnati. :roll:
     
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    Sorry to say....I believe the innuendo...at least I think that's the word you were going for.
     
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    The Liberals have proven that they will accept any lie as long as it furthers their dream of an enormously powerful central government that takes from some and gives to them. They actually believe that people are greedy who pay over 40% of what they earn to the Federal Government.
     
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    Who's RESPONSIBLE for the RELEASE of PRIVATE TAXPAYER INFORNMATION to their LEFTNINNY POLITICAL OPPONENTS?

    Oh...it's the Lyingass-Makes-Nixon-Look-Honest-Obama Adm.= "No one".
     
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    Correct. You want to see some hardcore leftwing nutter statements.... Google her tweets. She is a complete left wing scumbag... and her husband donated directly to the Democratic Party. Yet we have dishonest Liberals here act like him being a Bush appointee means something.

    There apparently is no limit "Progressives" are willing to slither to in order to force their ideology on the nation.
     
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    Its obvious. Do not fall for the lie that mere underlings would conduct themselves in unlawful ways, the hierarchy alone would prevent it. It has happened and those at the top of the hierarchy are involved. Gauranteed.
     
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    You will be proven wrong and you'll just go on to your next conspiracy. You guys are wrong every time. It's not that far fetched that the "underlings" would create a list of keywords to organize in a pile. Only extreme crazies would think this is a huge conspiracy that "had" to come from the top.

    Embarrassing! But you are the type that will never be phased regardless of how embarrassing you look to the outside world.
     
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    No. I will not. This whole thing is in the bud, the full flower of corruption is yet to be observed. Perhprs some one who is possibly to go to jail will realize that Chairman MaO'Bama is not worth a prison sentence. But Scooter Libby got left holding the bag for Dick Cheney and he did not squeal. We'll see.
     
  20. akphidelt2007

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    Absolutely nothing will happen. You are probably a birther that thought Obama would be impeached because he wasn't American. You guys are always wrong. This will be no different. Just amusing how confident you guys are after being wrong about everything.
     
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    Ah, streching for the outrageous. He is an American, but a dam poor one. You do not see the corruption and malfiesence because you do not want to, not because it is not there.
     
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    We could take the right more seriously on this if they wouldn't promote every little piece of stupidity that comes down pike. 154 visits to the President quickly turned into 11 and most at the OEOB for Obamacare implementation.

    By the way, many members of a Presidential staff work both on policy and politics and so Stephanie Cutter being involved is evidence of nothing except the right wing lunatics who have tried to create conspiracy around THIS President from the beginning. So please keep harping on this. This is fun to watch. You guys losing your minds over nothing that will be nothing. A year from now members of congress will be answering questions about why they allowed Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to be the leaders of their party and didn't work for the people. Heck I wouldn't be shocked if the Dems take back the house from the losers who can't seem to get out of their own way.

    But go on.
     
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    Its called discrimination.
     
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    again with the projections
     
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    Where do you get your tinfoil hats?
     

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