Fast Food workers declare minimum wage "unlivable"

because it's a no-skill job that could easily be replaced by a machine.

like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPacuqn5Gn8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NHvSivLwyw

but whatever. raise the minimum wage, not like we need jobs in this country...

 

Oh I don't believe it should be doubled either.


I just did some interesting figuring though. In 1965 the federal minimum wage was $1.25. That had the equivalent buying power of $9.27 today. So THAT is where the absolute minimum federal wage should be set.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0774473.html

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1.25&year1=1965&year2=2013

At $9.27 an hour , our theoretical employee working 35 hours a week would be earning $16871.40 a year; which isn't going to make anyone rich, but would certainly keep them off the welfare roles.

We're talking about roughly a $3500 year raise per employee X on average 20 employees , probably about 12 of which would be affected. But even if it were all 20 , we're talking about an extra $70K in labor costs when the average franchise has $2.2M in sales per year, of which currently <20% goes towards hourly wages.

http://www.hrcapitalist.com/2010/01...uch-would-you-pay-for-10-more-in-revenue.html
If you figure 20% exactly of $2.2M you get $440K if you add $70K to that you get $510K which is still < 25% of total sales, so we're talking about franchise owners on average paying a whopping 5% more in wages LOL I don't think they will be crippled by such.

 

The instigators of the minimum wage conversation know full well its not economically feasible which is why there is little to no effort being expended other than fanning the flames of confrontation, which is what you have here in this "strike". I hate to drop buzzwords but this is an example of "class warfare". The minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage.

Ambition used to be widely accepted as a positive characteristic, now its been painted as an evil thing. Lately more and more people are being manipulated and kept small -- although they likely do not recognize it because their potential was never valued.

Its the ultimate scam, the population is supporting itself being made into a permanent underclass. I can only compare it to the cattle yards and how the cows wouldn't so calmly walk to their slaughter if they knew what was up ahead.

 

What are you smoking that you believe that fast food restaurants are going to start firing people if the minimum wage were raised to $9.27 an hour where it should be?

If they keep the doors open they still have to have people to serve customers, and they aren't going to close the doors of a $2.2M business over $70K LOL

 

well no crap minimum wage is pretty much unlivable. but the fact of the matter is they are doing fast food which is not a hardcore job. wow you put fries in the fryer and you take someones order, obviously you should be paid $20/hr lol.

want to make an honest living? get a real job that has some damned meaning behind it. Hell i worked fast food when i was 16, i know what the deal is.

 

The market pays what the market will bear.

A person has to obtain a skill set that separates them from the large numbers of people who have just basic employable skills like working a cash register or a drive thru. You don't need 4 years of engineering school to do this...
Skilled craftsman like machinists are in demand and pay a very livable wage.

STEM

Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics

That's where the future of job growth is...
it's not easy....but nothing good ever is.

 

The scam is that some of you don't realize that the minimum wage is NOT where it should be, it is NOT where it was designed to be it is FAR below it.

As I pointed out , in 1965 the minimum wage was $1.25 an hour that is the equivalent of $9.27 an hour today. Conversely today's minimum wage of $7.25 an hour was equivalent to $.98 an hour in 1965.

Now, my next question to you is this.

Do you understand that in 1965 McDonalds was required to pay a minimum of $1.25 per hour just the same as manufacturing jobs were? There was no "burger flipper" exception.

Yet, somehow McDonalds did just fine in the 1960s and hey we had a fewer percentage of people on welfare to.

Now tell me again that raising the minimum wage is unfair .

 

Except that is not true, and never has been in this country. Your belief that we are a true capitalistic society is as laughable as others belief that we need to make sure everyone is equal.

 

Yes, socialism has worked out very well in Europe...and of course the success of communism in the former Soviet Union...

All models of success...

People like to point at Denmark or Sweden...forgetting these nations are the size of 1 of our large cities in America.

Denmark is only 5,000,000 citizens....

Given the large size of America...the number of illegals pouring over the borders....we can't afford socialism...we will turn into Greece...essentially an insolvent state...

Even China's success is based upon capitalist models....

Perhaps what theseAmerican communists want however...like the "Occupy Wall Street" dregs...is for everyone to be as miserable as they are...waiting in line for 8 hours to get a loaf of government bread...or waiting for 6 months to get a medical check up....because 1 doctor is serving thousands of patients...and do you know why ?

Why go to medical school...why devote your life to learning and practicing medicine...when the government takes it all away...you end up making the same as the guy scrubbing the floor of the operating room. The motivation to improve one's lot in life will dry up. Innovation will die out as Corporations are now government owned and there is no incentive to compete...there is no incentive to make a better product or give a better service.

No productivity...life becomes waiting for the government handouts...a shared misery as the wealthy can't be blamed any longer...only Statism.

This is the reality of Statism wherein the government controls the productive means of a country...and I suppose to a guy flipping burgers at White Castle...it can't get much worse....they want to take a whole nation down to their level.

 

Just demand a 'living lunch break' not this oppressive zombie like break you get now, problem solved...

 

Not necessarily. I know some on food stamps and this one gal started working more hours and they cut her off her food stamps, so she's cutting back on her hours because she said what she makes at the job for those few extra hours isn't worth losing her food stamps...so there ya go. This is the mentality we're dealing with. Not all but some would rather be less productive and get the goodies than be productive and support themselves. Why work more hours, be more tired...etc. when you can work less time and still get the same amount or actually even more money.

 

So get another (*)(*)(*)(*)ing job.

 

Oh please, why should they suffer two jobs when we can afford to allow that (*)(*)(*)(*)ty job to be a career? Isn't that what they are saying? Lets forget how many businesses will have to close their doors, forget how many crying children can't get a happy meal because its $37.23, its all about making fry cook a legitimate career...

 

In 1925 businesses didn't have ridiculous requirements and fines involving health care forced on them.

Let alone unemployment and other employment taxes.

Not sure why it should be equal to 1965.

 

I´ll explain the actual meaning of it to you some time.

 

You´ve worked 80 hours a week I suppose. I have, it isn´t nice and isn´t in line with conservative values of family life.

 

Who says you have to work 80/week? Find a job at a higher paying rate. work two part time jobs.

You liberals want communism, just admit it and stop with your (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) footing bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Sweden was a mono-culture when the socialist model gained traction. It promoted such a bump up in narcissistic behavior that Swedes stopped making new Swedes. The demographic collapse of the society was clear when the fertility rate tanked so....they started to import new taxpayers, many from islamic countries. They now have diversity issues. Doom is right around the corner.

 

Pardon, I don't make claim about fairness. I'm addressing only the point that the minimum wage is not meant to be a living wage. I expanded on that by going into the reason behind why organizers want to make it livable, ie: to keep a person in his "burger flipper" job instead of having the desire for more.

I don't want to put people in poverty, but more to the point: I don't want to make it easy for them to be content with living $1 above the poverty level. Certain persons seem to believe this acceptable.

 

If minimum wage is doubled, then ALL other wages need to double as well.

 

Well, if we're going to go that route, I know a cop who's crooked as hell, so they all must be crooked as hell...right?

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OK..Just remember, you get what you pay for. And when you get a half cooked burger that gives you salmonella, remember, you got what you paid for.

 

That low skill person needs to know food handling safety, cleanliness safety, local and federal restaurant rules and regulations. That fry cook is the only thing between you and rotten meat.

What do you do for a living? I'd wager I'd find it insignificant and trivial too...worth maybe 2 bucks an hour.

How condescending an insulting you are. Bet you don't have many friends.

 

Fast food is a 100 billion dollar industry employing hundred of thousands of people, serving hundreds of millions of people.

Hardly insignificant.

 

you posted nothing more than snarky d-bag snipe twice in a row.

 

Welp. We are going to have to start getting better at that. As less and less jobs that pay good salaries are available in this country, it will either be this or nothing. The fastest growing segment of jobs in America are minimum wage ( or less - think waitress ) jobs.