FBI backs CIA view that Russia intervened to help Trump win election

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  1. AnnaNoblesse

    AnnaNoblesse New Member

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    He wanted to end sanctions when he was in business with Russia. Now he sits opposed to them. If sanctions end now I suspect the Russians will have to give up much in return.
     
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    No they haven't.
     
  3. D0nRumataEst0rsky

    D0nRumataEst0rsky Banned

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    It's a lie.
     
  4. AnnaNoblesse

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    Not a secret
     
  5. D0nRumataEst0rsky

    D0nRumataEst0rsky Banned

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    For example?!
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose some didn't notice that.

    If Hillary were have won I seriously doubt anyone would be accusing the Russians of hacking the DNC and Pedosta's e-mails.

    As of yesterday Julian Assange still stands by that no state government was behind the hacking of the DNC and Pedosta's e-mails.

    Considering that Wikileaks has been around for ten years and has a perfect track record and the Washington Post, N.Y. Times, the Clinton criminal klan, Obama White House, CIA and FBI can't make the same claim, I have too call fake news.
     
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    Cdnpoli Banned

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    youre sitting there and telling me the US will not be pro Russian despite all signs pointing to the fact they are friendly to Russian interests. Good god. You're not an American first. You're not a patriot. You're a sham of an American.
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sanctions on Russia is dumb. Stupid idea. We wasted our time and got no closer to having an ally in Russia.

    It reminds me of a kid kicking his dog praying the kicking makes the dog love the boy.
     
  9. AnnaNoblesse

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    That's funny. I thought I posted many times that I think action should be taken against Russia to stop them from doing what they're doing.
    Also I've mentioned that I don't approve of them taking the Crimean Peninsula. Being that my mom is Ukrainian.

    I get it. You're putting your own words in my posts rather than using the words I've written. Well then, go ahead and write your own responses (as me). I'm interested in hearing what I have to say to myself.
     
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    And you base this opinion on what?

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    Yes. Action taken against Russia by Trump will be ending the sanctions and probably recognizing Crimea as Russian.

    This is the man you voted for. LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS.
     
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    Read up on him some more. Read past the headlines.
     
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    I do not believe such convenience. What I think is taking place is that the Social Despotism and Social Tyranny that has ultimately been the driving force behind many of the "accepted" changes that have taken place in this country, is being rejected, i.e., Donald J. Trump winning the election and is the next president of the United States. The well established opinion and political constructors of this nation are losing their grasp upon the populations of this country. The rise and acceptance of Hip-Hop, sexual degeneracy and the social impacts of all agendas that have been promoted in this country in recent (the past forty years, if not longer) is being rejected by the populations in this country. If people are aware, the main culprits of this social engineering are coming out of the proverbial woodwork. Maybe the people of this country are finally waking up from their long slumber? A lie only lasts for a specific amount of time before it is discovered.
     
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    I do. It seems you don't though.
     
  14. Robert

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    Nope, the media would not talk up this idea at all.

    Supposedly only if Clinton won was democracy winning.

    I remind Democrats to count two things.

    Electoral votes
    States voting for Trump vs for Clinton
     
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    http://www.newsweek.com/would-john-bolton-russian-hawk-state-532310

    That gives a good review of Bolton's dealings with Russia.
     
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    Why does a Canadian care? You honestly think Russia is going to invade? If we were working on that sort of expansionist partnership, you all would be ours to take. I doubt any oil contracts would be effected. Is there some "mother England" effect we're not aware of?

    If you can't clearly state why you would care with even a hint of logic, than I say your perspective is muddied. You would have to be worried about some contract that won't go through without globalists in charge of America, as the bribing system is clearly on the brink of being shut down. To the dismay of people claiming to care for decades, I might add.
     
  17. Cdnpoli

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    Yeah from a long time a go. That's irrelevant for the times we are in. Bolton suggested US might not come to the aid of a NATO country. This guy is more like Trump than you want to believe.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Canadians care because Russia wants to drill in the Arctic Ocean and so does Donald Trump and with them together there is no one to oppose this who has any kind of power. We need the US to not help Russia (*)(*)(*)(*) the Arctic up but it seems like it's going to happen anyway. That's why we care.
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not understand Democrats and this despite I was one up to age 42.

    Democrats had no more fervent supporter than me. Then I woke up.

    We applauded Kosova breaking off from Yugoslavia. Matter of fact, but for the USA, Yugoslavia would still be a country.

    Why did we favor Muslims over Serbs in Kosovo?

    We want Syria destroyed. We bomb the place. Russia as well bombs Syria. So Russia is not out of my woodshed.

    But Crimea is populated by Russians. They were whom voted to go to Russia as a group. I am quite certain that the port is important there that Russia had the deal on. And that Ukraine would love to get back that port.

    My problem with Ukraine is the present illegal government.

    They used violence to depose the lawful president. The man fled to Russia.

    Voting is how to do it.

    Sanctions are in this case like you refusing to feed your dog. It makes the dog hungry and he does not love you.

    Trying to bring down Russia then complaining Hillary lost an election is really ironic.

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    Drilling for oil in the Arctic is an exceptional great idea. We won't stop Russia now will we?

    Obama was dumb as a bag of rocks to try to demolish this countries energy sources.
     
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    The Ukrainian president was a Putin puppet. Ukrainian nationalists are Ukraine first and foremost. Would you want a leader to be a puppet of a foreign country? Probably not.

    Russia sent soldiers to Crimea for the referendum. Is that now intimidation tactics? Threatening violence during a referendum with guns and soldiers makes it illigetimate
     
  22. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait, I suspect you did not want Iraq invaded. I wonder if you wanted Afghanistan invaded. An invasion means we waged war. Aiding NATO means we are in one of their wars.

    Why would we evade our war then join their wars?
     
  23. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Y'all haven't been enemies of Russia since the 50's and y'all fought together in the 90's.

    I know y'all have the arctic, you keep sending Polar Vortexes down here :lol:
     
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    Because you signed an agreement to come to the aid of any country that requests NATO. Like how you guys requested all NATO countries to come to your aid in the war in Afghanistan. We all came to your aid.
     
  25. Robert

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    Ukraine's president who was illegally deposed was a natural ally of Russia.

    Do you honestly support overthrow merely over friendship with Russia?

    As to Crimea,. it is populated by Russians. It is normal for Russians to live with Russians. They would have remained with Ukraine but for the illegal overthrow of the government of Ukraine.

    But you support that?
     

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